GameSense at Chezy Champs 2015!

[Monochron]

Originally Posted by Ty Tremblay

We're using Amazon Web Services. The same backend that Netflix and Spotify use.

What was it about other streaming services that you didn't like? Camera switching abilities or the like?

[Bob Steele]

Originally Posted by tickspe15

But how will we know who truly has the fastest can grabber?

In my opinion, due to the rule changes.... can grabbing will be limited in value at chezy champs.

[AdamHeard]

Originally Posted by Bob Steele

In my opinion, due to the rule changes.... can grabbing will be limited in value at chezy champs.

Yup in regards to speed.

We're running substantially slower can grabbers than at champs.

I do think in elims you'll see an alliance or two that can score more than 6 cans routinely.

[Joe G.]

Originally Posted by Monochron

What was it about other streaming services that you didn't like? Camera switching abilities or the like?

I would assume any number of the issues that have plagued FIRST webcasts for years: overzealous copyright claims on music, uncontrollable ads interrupting broadcasts, general quality/stability issues, terrible resolution, no automatic archive, and so on.

I'm suprised that the STEMtv announcement isn't generating more attention. Having a purpose-built solution and site for robotics events is a huge deal, which should dramatically improve the accessability of these events.

[Ty Tremblay]

Originally Posted by Joe G.

I would assume any number of the issues that have plagued FIRST webcasts for years: overzealous copyright claims on music, uncontrollable ads interrupting broadcasts, general quality/stability issues, terrible resolution, no automatic archive, and so on.

Pretty much this. Also, since we'll be a small (smaller than Twitch or YouTube) operation, we'll be able to provide a much more tailored experience.

[Monochron]

Originally Posted by Joe G.

I would assume any number of the issues that have plagued FIRST webcasts for years: overzealous copyright claims on music, uncontrollable ads interrupting broadcasts, general quality/stability issues, terrible resolution, no automatic archive, and so on.

From my limited knowledge of it, Twitch can get around almost all of those issues. Copyright music claims are the only issue, but the way they handle it is just muting the archive at that point.

[Ty Tremblay]

Originally Posted by Monochron

From my limited knowledge of it, Twitch can get around almost all of those issues. Copyright music claims are the only issue, but the way they handle it is just muting the archive at that point.

The broadcaster can't control the ad that plays when a user loads a stream on Twitch. As a result, you get high school and middle school kids watching a Call of Duty ad where someone gets tortured. This is the issue I ran into last year when I was running NE FIRST's webcasts.

If you don't have enough viewers, Twitch will also disable transcoding, forcing users to watch the stream at its source resolution regardless of their internet speed.

Additionally, FRC is technically not a video game and Twitch has removed FRC streams (and accounts) in the past for that reason.

[Monochron]

Originally Posted by Ty Tremblay

The broadcaster can't control the ad that plays when a user loads a stream on Twitch. As a result, you get high school and middle school kids watching a Call of Duty ad where someone gets tortured. This is the issue I ran into last year when I was running NE FIRST's webcasts.

If you don't have enough viewers, Twitch will also disable transcoding, forcing users to watch the stream at its source resolution regardless of their internet speed.

Additionally, FRC is technically not a video game and Twitch has removed FRC streams (and accounts) in the past for that reason.

Ah gotcha, wasn't aware of those. Thanks.

[Libby K]

Originally Posted by Ty Tremblay

Additionally, FRC is technically not a video game and Twitch has removed FRC streams (and accounts) in the past for that reason.

Twitch appears to have opened that gateway a little bit- at least that I'm aware of, 'talk show' wasn't a category until recently. So that's hopeful!

I'm excited to get a look at STEMtv & give it a shot for Chezy Champs.

[first3234]

Webcast when the out

[Ty Tremblay]

Originally Posted by first3234

Webcast when the out

Sorry about that. The event lost internet for a few minutes. Should be back up now.

[dcarr]

Originally Posted by Ty Tremblay

The broadcaster can't control the ad that plays when a user loads a stream on Twitch. As a result, you get high school and middle school kids watching a Call of Duty ad where someone gets tortured. This is the issue I ran into last year when I was running NE FIRST's webcasts.

If you don't have enough viewers, Twitch will also disable transcoding, forcing users to watch the stream at its source resolution regardless of their internet speed.

Additionally, FRC is technically not a video game and Twitch has removed FRC streams (and accounts) in the past for that reason.

FYI, all of these concerns [disabling or offering control over ads, full transcodes, special categorization] are solvable and are things that Twitch takes care of for partners and special events on a regular basis. All totally solvable.

The stream for Chezy has really shined when things are working well but uptime has been wanting. Venue internet can be a struggle for sure.

One thing I miss is being able to watch on my phone or tablet; with the Twitch/YouTube apps this is very easy. But the embedded player is Flash, not HTML5, so I haven't been able to watch on mobile. I haven't tried to grab the manifest and play it back in another video player.

[Ty Tremblay]

Originally Posted by dcarr

The stream for Chezy has really shined when things are working well but uptime has been wanting. Venue internet can be a struggle for sure.

One thing I miss is being able to watch on my phone or tablet; with the Twitch/YouTube apps this is very easy. But the embedded player is Flash, not HTML5, so I haven't been able to watch on mobile. I haven't tried to grab the manifest and play it back in another video player.

It turns out that streaming 1080p 60fps video while uploading 1080p 60fps video to YouTube was a little much for this network to handle. Chezy Champs has stopped the uploads for now and the stream is back and stable.
Unfortunately, the stream availability would have happened regardless of which streaming service was used.

Guess we can't have everything.

I agree that watching streams on the phone and tablet is convenient and important. STEMtv has a meeting tomorrow to work on delivering that via a player that has a mobile SDK. We're in our infancy, but we're working hard to tailor our service to the STEM community.

[dcarr]

Originally Posted by Ty Tremblay

I agree that watching streams on the phone and tablet is convenient and important. STEMtv has a meeting tomorrow to work on delivering that via a player that has a mobile SDK. We're in our infancy, but we're working hard to tailor our service to the STEM community.

Sweet. Let me know if you would appreciate some input on the Android side, I know the Twitch Android app inside and out

[Eugene Fang]

Originally Posted by dcarr

One thing I miss is being able to watch on my phone or tablet; with the Twitch/YouTube apps this is very easy. But the embedded player is Flash, not HTML5, so I haven't been able to watch on mobile. I haven't tried to grab the manifest and play it back in another video player.

For you mobile users: https://fangeugene.github.io/stemtv-...cc_mobile.html

It is also viewable within our development version of the TBA Android app. But that hasn't been released yet due to some bugs. The point is it will be available during the 2016 season.