Registration 2016

[Insanity000]

Anyone know if there is a way to see the teams that are registerd for an event as they register or do we have to wait for that to come out on a later date

[Mark McLeod]

Originally Posted by Insanity000

Anyone know if there is a way to see the teams that are registerd for an event as they register or do we have to wait for that to come out on a later date

You can use: https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso
- Select 2016/events/Show Results
- Click on the event you are interested in
- Click on Queries: What teams are registered for this event?

[Foster]

I want to say thanks to Mark, he quits his day job, moves away from his family into a secluded location with only a hotspot and his high powered laptop to give us the up to the second info on events and team stats....

.... well it seems that way. Thanks Mark!!!

[IndySam]

refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh,

love this time of year!

[Knufire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9-Te-DPbSE

[sanddrag]

Holy smokes that went fast. The button appeared right at the hour down to the second. I registered in about 30 seconds flat, without reading anything whatsoever about what I was clicking on. Within 60 seconds, there were already 30 teams registered for Long Beach.

[M. Mellott]

12:02 - Added to waitlist at Greater Pittsburgh Regional

Really? Two minutes?

[Knufire]

Who knew the skills you learned during college class registration would come in handy.

[Mark McLeod]

Long after this thread was done I decided to look at the average cost per team under the different systems in place, and that's only possible after the fact.

This doesn't look at number of matches played or anything like that. It's only focused on how much it cost teams playing under different Regional and District systems. The question was driven by practical considerations that new teams have in planning for a starting budget.

This doesn't take into account sources of funding, e.g., NASA grants, FIRST Rookie or Hardship grants, state funding, schools, sponsors, etc. All of which changes the actual impact on individual teams.
The interesting part was for the most part the average cost per team in each area was comparable, but in some areas it was rather higher.

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So, for the past 2016 season:

Total registration fees amounted to: $24,644,988

Area/Type --------------------- Total Cost ----- Avg cost per team ------- Number of events

Regional Rookies -------------- $1,946,000 --- Avg/team = $7,371 ----- 241=1 event, 23=2 events, 54=CMP
Regional Vets ----------------- $12,753,000 --- Avg/team = $7,519 ----- 1035=1 event, 610=2 events, 51=3 events, 285=CMP
FIM-MAR Rookies ---------------- $585,500 --- Avg/team = $7,411 ----- 78=2 events, 1=3 events, 14=DCMP, 11=CMP
FIM-MAR Vets ------------------ $3,493,500 --- Avg/team = $7,712 ----- 1=1 district, 415=2 districts, 37=3 districts, 108=CMP, 148=DCMP, 18=Regionals, 6=Inter-District
PNW ----------------------------- $1,902,988 ---- Avg/team = $12,044 ---- 148=2 districts, 10=3 Districts, 2=1 Regional, 64=DCMP, 35=CMP
NC-PCH-NE-IN-CHS Rookies --- $374,000 ---- Avg/team = $8,698 ------ 43=2 districts, 19=DCMP, 8=CMP
NC-PCH-NE-IN-CHS Vets ----- $3,590,000 ---- Avg/team = $8,215 ------ 9=1 district,391=2 districts, 36=3 districts, 1=4 districts, 205=DCMP, 99=CMP, 13=Regionals, 2=Inter-District

[Cothron Theiss]

Anyone want to shed some light on why the PNW District average cost per team is several thousand dollars more than the others?

[Mark McLeod]

It's because PNW uses a fixed price.
I hope that in actual practice the cost may be offset by hardship and other support grants to low-funded teams that PNW may provide.

For instance, 199 Regional Rookies paid only $6000 each to play - no second events or world championship-almost 1000 Regional vets only paid $5000 to play. Even paying for two Regional events is cheaper than the single PNW price, but the PNW price includes the District Championship if the team qualifies.
Overall across the board there were only 10 District teams that chose to play only a single event.

[Jon Stratis]

FIM-MR had 453 teams and 148 at DCMP, if I'm reading that right - 32% of teams. 37 attended a third district, or 8%. 18 attended a regional, or 4%.

PNW, on the other hand, had 158 teams and 64 at DCMP - 40% of teams. 10 teams attended 3 districts, or 6%. 2 attending a regional, or 1.3%.

I suspect at least part of it comes from that math. You had a higher percentage of teams spend more money to attend more events in PNW than in other places.

I think there's also a difference in the district cost depending on the district, isn't there?

[Mark McLeod]

Here are the prices I used: (please correct any errors)

Registration --------------- Veteran ----- Rookie --- extra Regionals -- 3rd District - Inter-District - District CMP - World CMP

Regional teams -------------- 5000.00 ----- 6000.00 ----- 4000.00 ------------------------------------------------------- ----- ----- 5000.00
FIM/MAR teams -------------- 5000.00 ----- 6000.00 ----- 4000.00 ------------ 500.00 --------- 1000.00 ------- 4000.00 -------- 5000.00
NE/IN/CHS/PCH/NC teams -- 5000.00 ----- 6000.00 ----- 4000.00 ----------- 1000.00 --------- 1000.00 ------- 4000.00 -------- 5000.00
PNW teams ------------------ 10886.00 --- 10886.00 ----- 4000.00 ----- ----- 1000.00 ----------1000.00 -------------------------- 5000.00

[Mark McLeod]

Here is a detailed breakdown of registration expenses just for the rookie teams in each area.
For example, 11 Regional Rookie teams only attended 2 regional events for a combined registration cost of $110,000 or $10,000 per team.
199 rookie teams attended 1 regional, 11 teams attended 2 regionals, 42 attended 1 regional+CMP, and 12 teams went to 2 regionals+CMP.

------------------------------------ 1 regional---- 2 regionals ----- 1+CMP ------ 2+CMP
Regional Rookies ($1,946,000) -- 199 ---------- 11 ------------ 42 ----------- 12
264 total teams ----------------- $1,194,000 --- $110,000 --- $462,000 --- $180,000
Avg/team = $7,371 ----------------- $6,000 ---- $10,000 ----- $11,000 ---- $15,000

------------------------------------ 2 districts---- 3 districts----- 2+CMP --- 2+DCMP --- 2+DCMP+CMP
FIM-MAR Rookies ($585,500) ----- 63 ----------- 1 ----------- 1 ---------- 4 ------------ 10
79 total teams ------------------- $378,000 ----- $6,500 --- $11,000 --- $40,000 ---- $150,000
Avg/team = $7,411 ---------------- $6,000 ----- $6,500 --- $11,000 --- $10,000 ------ $15,000

-------------------------------------------------- 2 districts------ 2+CMP ----- 2+DCMP ----- 2+DCMP+CMP
NC-PCH-NE-IN-CHS Rookies ($374,000) ----- 23 ------------ 1 ------------- 2 --------------- 7
43 total teams -------------------------------- $138,000 ----- $11,000 ----- $120,000 ----- $105,000
Avg/team = $8,698 ----------------------------- $6,000 ----- $11,000 ------- $10,000 ------ $15,000

------------------------------- 2 districts ----- 2+DCMP ----- 2+DCMP+CMP ----- 3+DCMP+CMP
PNW Rookies ($157,518) ----- 8 ------------ 2 ---------------- 2 -------------------- 1
13 total teams -------------- $87,088 ----- $21,772 -------- $31,772 ------------ $16,886
Avg/team = $12,117 ------- $10,886 ----- $10,886 -------- $15,886 ------------ $16,886

[Mark McLeod]

Here are the updated registration costs, for the past 2016 season:
(Still looking for official PNW final pricing sources, since actual PNW average price is almost certainly higher.)

Total registration fees amounted to: $23,927,495

Area/Type --------------------- Total Cost ----- Avg cost per team ------- Number of events

Regional Rookies -------------- $1,946,000 --- Avg/team = $7,371 ----- 241=1 event, 23=2 events, 54=CMP
Regional Vets ----------------- $12,753,000 --- Avg/team = $7,519 ----- 1035=1 event, 610=2 events, 51=3 events, 285=CMP
FIM-MAR Rookies ---------------- $585,500 --- Avg/team = $7,411 ----- 78=2 events, 1=3 events, 14=DCMP, 11=CMP
FIM-MAR Vets ------------------ $3,493,500 --- Avg/team = $7,712 ----- 1=1 district, 415=2 districts, 37=3 districts, 108=CMP, 148=DCMP, 18=Regionals, 6=Inter-District

PNW Rookies ----------------------- $83,925 --- Avg/team = $6,456 ----- 12=2 districts, 1=3 Districts, 5=DCMP, 3=CMP
PNW Vets ------------------------ $1,100,070 --- Avg/team = $7,587 ----- 136=2 districts, 9=3 Districts, 2=1 Regional, 59=DCMP, 32=CMP

NC-PCH-NE-IN-CHS Rookies --- $374,000 ---- Avg/team = $8,698 ------ 43=2 districts, 19=DCMP, 8=CMP
NC-PCH-NE-IN-CHS Vets ----- $3,590,000 ---- Avg/team = $8,215 ------ 9=1 district,391=2 districts, 36=3 districts, 1=4 districts, 205=DCMP, 99=CMP, 13=Regionals, 2=Inter-District


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Here are the revised prices I used:

Registration ------------- Veteran ---- Rookie -- extra Regionals -- 3rd District - Inter-District - District CMP - World CMP

Regional teams -------------- 5000 ------- 6000 ----------- 4000 ------------------------------------------------------- ----- ----- 5000
FIM/MAR teams -------------- 5000 ------- 6000 ----------- 4000 ------------- 500 ---------- 1000 ------------ 4000 ----------- 5000
NE/IN/CHS/PCH/NC teams -- 5000 ------- 6000 ----------- 4000 ------------ 1000 ---------- 1000 ------------ 4000 ----------- 5000
PNW teams ------------------- 6366 ------- 5225 ----------- 4000 ----- ------ 1000 -----------1000 ------------------------------ 5000