KOP 2016

[scaryone]

Anyone know what the KOP deal is this year? The "option" opens this Thursday, but I can't find it anywhere.

[Alan Anderson]

What option are you referring to?

"Kickoff Attendance & Kit Pick up / Delivery" selection opens at noon Friday, October 2. The button to let you do it won't be present until then.

[FrankJ]

In years past there has been a opt out for chassis in the veteran KOP. I suspect that will be the same this year, but that is unfounded speculation on my part. Once again that option showed up sometime in Oct in years past.

[EDesbiens]

What do rookie teams usually get? I've seen a few times the Veteran KOP but never the rookie one...

[scaryone]

Man you guys are quick:
From FRC website; "Kit of Parts Kickoff Kit drive base system option Opens" 10/1/2015

[EDesbiens]

Originally Posted by scaryone

Man you guys are quick:
From FRC website; "Kit of Parts Kickoff Kit drive base system option Opens" 10/1/2015

Thats still thursday... Isn't it?

[EricH]

Originally Posted by EDesbiens

What do rookie teams usually get? I've seen a few times the Veteran KOP but never the rookie one...

Veteran KOP, plus a control system (RIO and modules, radio) and compressor. Rookies also usually get a second battery and a charger included.

This is in general, not specific to this year.

[EDesbiens]

So, no pneumatic gears other then the compressor? And no other material?

[Jon Stratis]

Originally Posted by EDesbiens

So, no pneumatic gears other then the compressor? And no other material?

These days pneumatics are generally only included in FIRST Choice. In any given year, I would say maybe half of teams actually use pneumatics, so including them in the KoP for everyone like they used to would be a little wasteful. Rookies still get everything veterans get, they just get a few additional items that veterans are expected to keep and reuse from one year to the next.

[EDesbiens]

Ok... I thought it included enough stuff to build a robot (a simple one but still ).

[EricH]

Originally Posted by EDesbiens

So, no pneumatic gears other then the compressor? And no other material?

Many of the pneumatic items are either in the veteran KOP or in FIRST Choice. Same for other material--it's a KOP frame (as a rookie team, you generally cannot decline that for the PDV!), motors, and other items, the same as the veteran KOP.


I'll try to make things a little simpler: The Rookie KOP is the Veteran KOP with a control system and compressor (and possibly a couple of other items)--but to the best of my knowledge, the exact makeup for the 2016 season has not been announced.

[Mr V]

The usual disclaimer about what has happened in previous season is not guaranteed to happen in this season applies as always. Disclaimer aside here are the differences in the rookie kit for previous seasons.

Rookie teams get in addition to the veteran kit:

A full control system, in this case a Roborio, Voltage Regulator Module, Pneumatics Control Module, Power Distribution Panel, Router

A full pneumatics system, albiet a basic one: compressor, bag of fittings, solenoid, pneumatics hose.

Extra motors and motor controllers.

Netbook

Last season rookie teams were allowed to opt out of the kit chassis and receive a product voucher, though I always recommend that rookie teams get and use the kit chassis.

My bet is that teams will be able to opt out of the kit chassis again this season, though I have absolutely no information confirming that.

[crazyrobochick]

Can someone please explain to me the FIRST Choice? I know my brother has tried to explain it in the past but I can't remember how it works. Thanks in advance!

[EDesbiens]

Originally Posted by crazyrobochick

Can someone please explain to me the FIRST Choice? I know my brother has tried to explain it in the past but I can't remember how it works. Thanks in advance!

You get points which can be used to "buy" things (batteries, motors... Game parts).

[EricH]

Originally Posted by crazyrobochick

Can someone please explain to me the FIRST Choice? I know my brother has tried to explain it in the past but I can't remember how it works. Thanks in advance!

Stuff that there isn't enough of for every KOP--or that is in high demand and short supply--is put in FIRST Choice and assigned a certain credit value. Teams put in a list of what they want from that "pile". Teams have a quantity of credits.

After a certain point, a computer goes in and figures out based on the lists/items/credits which team gets which items. (Teams are in random order, as I recall.)