[FTC]: All Motors - Legal for 2015-2016 (Links/Pricing/Specs)

[MattRain]

This is the list of motors, with pricing, links, and specs that I could find. These are all of the motors allowed for this year's season. An interesting line up.

Game Manual Part 1 <RE04>

Modern Robotics and Legacy HiTechnic motor and servo controllers
- Allowed motors are TETRIX/AndyMark/MATRIX 12 VDC
o TETRIX W39530
o AM-2964, AM-3102, AM-3103, AM-3104
o MATRIX 14-0014
Legacy MATRIX Motor and Servo controllers (unified module)
- With a 12 VDC MATRIX Battery Pack, allowed motors are MATRIX 12
VDC
o MATRIX 14-0014
- With a 9.6 VDC MATRIX Battery Pack, allowed motors are Legacy
MATRIX 9.7 VDC motors
o MATRIX 50-0001, 50-0012
Modern Robotics and Legacy HiTechnic and servo controllers
- Allowed motors are VEX motors
o VEX EDR 393

Andymark:
Encoder Cables:
am-2992 http://www.andymark.com/product-p/am-2992.htm
am-2965 http://www.andymark.com/product-p/am-2965.htm

NeveRest 20 (am-3102) ($25.00) (Encoder Included) (ENCODER CABLE NOT INCLUDED)
http://www.andymark.com/NeveRest-20-p/am-3102.htm

Physical Specs:
Overall Length: 5.18"
Maximum Diameter: 37mm (1.46 in)
Output Shaft size: 6mm (0.24 in) with 0.5mm deep flat
Weight: 0.762 Pounds
Mounting Holes: M3 tapped holes, qty. 6, on a 31mm bolt circle
Electrical Connection Geometry: 6-pin connector for motor power and encoder contact
Gear Material: Steel
Body Material: Steel with plastic encoder housing
Lubrication: Included with gearbox
Theoretical Performance Specs:
Gearbox Reduction: 20:1
Voltage: 12 volt DC
No Load Free Speed, at gearbox output shaft: 315 RPM
Gearbox Output Power: 14W
Stall Torque: 197 oz-in
Stall Current: 11.5A
Output pulse per revolution of Output Shaft (ppr): 560 Pulses
Performance Specs, mounted to AndyMark dyno: Coming Soon
Max Speed (under load of dyno):
No Load Current (under load of dyno):
Stall Current:
Stall Torque:
Max Output Power:
Time to Failure at Stall:
Motor Case Temperature at Failure:

NeveRest 40 (am-2964) Released last year ($25.00) (Encoder included) (ENCODER CABLE NOT INCLUDED)
http://www.andymark.com/NeveRest-40-p/am-2964.htm

Physical Specs:
Overall Length: 133.5mm (5.26 in)
Maximum Diameter: 37mm (1.46 in)
Output Shaft size: 6mm (0.24 in) with 0.5mm deep flat
Weight: 0.75 pound
Mounting Holes: M3 tapped holes, qty. 6, on a 31mm bolt circle
Electrical Connection Geometry: 6-pin connector for motor power and encoder contact
Gear Material: Steel
Body Material: Steel with plastic encoder housing
Lubrication: Included with gearbox
Performance Specs:
Gearbox Reduction: 40:1
Voltage: 12 volt DC
No Load Free Speed, at gearbox output shaft: 160 rpm
No Load Free Speed, motor only: 6,600 rpm
Gearbox Output Power: 14W
Stall Torque: 350 oz-in
Stall Current: 11.5 amps
Force Needed to Break Gearbox: 1478 oz-in
Minimum torque needed to back drive: 12.8 oz-in
Output pulse per revolution of Output Shaft (ppr): 1120 (280 rises of Channel A)
Output pulse per revolution of encoder shaft (ppr): 28 (7 rises of Channel A)
Performance Specs, mounted to AndyMark dyno:
Max Speed (under load of dyno): 129 rpm
No Load Current (under load of dyno): 0.4 amps
Stall Current: 11.5 amps
Stall Torque: 396 oz-in
Max Output Power: 15 Watts
Time to Failure at Stall: 2 minutes, 54 seconds
Motor Case Temperature at Failure: 190 degrees F

NeveRest 60 (am-3103) ($25.00) (Encoder included) (ENCODER CABLE NOT INCLUDED)
http://www.andymark.com/NeveRest-60-p/am-3103.htm

Physical Specs:
Overall Length: 133.5mm (5.26 in)
Maximum Diameter: 37mm (1.46 in)
Output Shaft size: 6mm (0.24 in) with 0.5mm deep flat
Weight: 0.776 pounds
Mounting Holes: M3 tapped holes, qty. 6, on a 31mm bolt circle
Electrical Connection Geometry: 6-pin connector for motor power and encoder contact
Gear Material: Steel
Body Material: Steel with plastic encoder housing
Lubrication: Included with gearbox
Theoretical Performance Specs:
Gearbox Reduction: 60:1
Voltage: 12 volt DC
No Load Free Speed, at gearbox output shaft: 105 RPM
Gearbox Output Power: 14W
Stall Torque: 593 oz-in
Stall Current: 11.5A
Output pulse per revolution of Output Shaft (ppr): 1680 Pulses
Performance Specs, mounted to AndyMark dyno: Coming Soon
Max Speed (under load of dyno):
No Load Current (under load of dyno):
Stall Current:
Stall Torque:
Max Output Power:
Time to Failure at Stall:
Motor Case Temperature at Failure:

NeveRest Motor (am-3104) ($15.00) (Encoder Included) (ENCODER CABLE NOT INCLUDED)
http://www.andymark.com/NeveRest-Motor-p/am-3104.htm

Physical Specs:
•Overall Length: 75mm (2.95 in)
•Maximum Diameter: 38mm (1.49 in)
•Weight: 0.550 Pounds
•Mounting Holes: 3x M2-0.4 x 22mm deep
•Electrical Connection Geometry: 6-pin connector for motor power and encoder contact
•Gear Material: Steel
•Body Material: Steel with plastic encoder housing
Theoretical Performance Specs:
•Voltage: 12 volt DC
•No Load Free Speed: 6600 RPM
•Power: 14W
•Stall Torque: 8.75 oz-in
•Stall Current: 11.5 A
•Output pulse per revolution of Output Shaft (ppr): 28

Tetrix:

Tetrix MAX DC Gear Motor (Product ID W39530) $24.95, 6-PACK $208.95 (20% discount at check out) (NO ENCODER)
Single: https://www.tetrixrobotics.com/extra..._DC_Gear_Motor
6-pack, Plus extras: https://www.tetrixrobotics.com/extra...otor_Bulk_Pack

Normal Operation Conditions
- Rated Voltage: 6-13.8 V
- Ambient Temp. -10-+60 C
- Rotate direction: CW
Test condidtions
- Voltage DC 12V
- Ambient Temp 28 C
- Ambient Humidity 22%RH
* The tested sample is set level
Electrical features (After 30 seconds electrify)
- No-load Speed 150+- 10%rpm
- No-load current: 0.34A (0.66A max)
- Load toqure: 3.9kg.cm
- Load current 0.91A (1.37A max)
- Load Speed: 137.5+- 10%rpm
- Stall torque: /
- Stal current: /
Mecanical characteristics
- Axial play of shaft <= 0.5mm
Motor features
- No-load Current: 0.19A
- No-load speed: 1100+_ 10%rpm
Time to Failure at Stall: 6 seconds (<-- Testing other teams and we have done)
PDF of above: https://c10645061.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.co...otor739530.pdf

Matrix:

12v Motor Kit $43.95 (Includes mounting hardware) (Encoder Included)
http://modernroboticsinc.com/12v-motor-kit-50-0014
9.7v Motor Kit $43.95 (Includes mounting hardware) (Encoder Included)
http://modernroboticsinc.com/high-to...-kit-50-0012-2

Vex:

VEX EDR 393: $14.99 (NO ENCODER)
http://www.vexrobotics.com/vex/produ...on/motors.html

[cadandcookies]

Very excited for the increased options on NeverRest motors. Those were fantastic last year and I know my team will love having more options.

[MattRain]

NeveRest 20 (am-3102) Price went up from $25 to $28.
NeveRest 60 (am-3103) Price went up from $25 to $28.

NEW Replacement Gearboxes!

NeveRest 20 Gearbox, No Motor (am-3105) http://www.andymark.com/product-p/am-3105.htm
NeveRest 40 Gearbox, No Motor (am-3106) http://www.andymark.com/product-p/am-3106.htm
NeveRest 60 Gearbox, No Motor (am-3107) http://www.andymark.com/product-p/am-3107.htm
(NeveRest) 20:1 Gearbox (8mm Hex) http://www.revrobotics.com/product/rev-41-1064/
(NeveRest) 40:1 Gearbox (8mm Hex) http://www.revrobotics.com/product/rev-41-1065/
(NeveRest) 60:1 Gearbox (8mm Hex) http://www.revrobotics.com/product/rev-41-1066/

Unable to edit the top post.

[ehochstein]

Originally Posted by MattRain

NeveRest 20 (am-3102) Price went up from $25 to $28.
NeveRest 60 (am-3103) Price went up from $25 to $28.

I believe this is because these two models of the NeveRest come with PowerPoles attached.

[M. Mellott]

* Note: BRAND new to the FTC world, so bear with me! *

If I use the VEX 393 Motor, can I use the VEX Motor Controller 29 (p/n 276-2193) in addition to the motor controller unit in the kit, or can I only use the kit MC unit?

BTW, thank you for posting these specs and links--this will be very handy!!

[cadandcookies]

Originally Posted by M. Mellott

* Note: BRAND new to the FTC world, so bear with me! *

If I use the VEX 393 Motor, can I use the VEX Motor Controller 29 (p/n 276-2193) in addition to the motor controller unit in the kit, or can I only use the kit MC unit?

BTW, thank you for posting these specs and links--this will be very handy!!

The yellow box was recently updated:

Originally Posted by FTC Game Manual

Modern Robotics and Legacy HiTechnic Motor Controllers
 Allowed motors are TETRIX/AndyMark/MATRIX 12 VDC
o TETRIX W39530
o AM-2964, AM-3102, AM-3103, AM-3104
o MATRIX 50-0014, 50-0012
Legacy MATRIX Motor and Servo controllers (unified module)
 With a 12 VDC MATRIX Battery Pack, allowed motors are MATRIX 12
VDC
o MATRIX 50-0014, 50-0012
 With a 9.6 VDC MATRIX Battery Pack, allowed motors are Legacy
MATRIX 9.7 VDC motors
o MATRIX 14-0001, MATRIX 14-0009
Modern Robotics and Legacy HiTechnic Servo controllers
 VEX EDR 393 DC Motor (with a single VEX Motor Controller 29 per 393
motor) – only when connected to a Servo Controller (observing Servo
Controller power limits, maximum of two 393 DC motors per Servo
Controller).
 Each VEX EDR 393 DC motor with Motor Controller 29 is counted as a
single DC motor (and not a servo).

[DavisDad]

Modern Robotics Inc. (Matrix Robotics) hasn't published specs for the Matrix 12V gear-motor. I like this motor a lot with the planetary gears, which are typically more efficient and durable than the spur gears used by AndyMark and Tetrix. I did some preliminary testing and posted results here: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...61&postcount=7 with a drawing of dimensions.