Official FIRST Stronghold Teaser!

[runneals]

I just came across Stronghold that may or may not have been what the GDC based the game off of... The logo looks similar, but my team said "No Boots", so I guess you can take it or leave it...

[kpaul]

Originally Posted by HedgeHogGal99

My first thought after seeing the teaser was "Are our robots going to be jousting each other??"

Same. I showed this video to a bunch of non-frc friends and they said that too.

[GeeTwo]

While cooking dinner this evening, I pulled a bunch of pieces together in my mind:

Originally Posted by Hallry

Teaser Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVLdJdoKK2E

Website Link: http://www.usfirst.org/node/4174

Originally Posted by TheThings

Capture the flag

Originally Posted by stoutman777

My guess would be some sort of tower defense game possibly?

Originally Posted by Hgree56

Just a thought: The video said "Face this task together" and showed a second "team" or "Alliance." Does this mean return of an end game like in 2012 where alliances have to tag-team to do it?

Originally Posted by OpalStone

I'm considering the flag element may be similar to 2011 Logomotion with the minibots. Thoughts?

Originally Posted by GeeTwo

Maybe you need to build a pacifier to turn everyone into infants...

Originally Posted by Mitchell1714

7. The new improved plowie [sic] is made out of stones from the castle.

9. At 42 seconds the robot's arms are in a karate fighting position. I assume this means the robot will have a manipulator come out of the bumper perimeter to interact with game pieces.

Originally Posted by Aur0r4

I'm surprised the dialog hasn't gotten more attention.

"Build your champion" "rally your kingdom" "Face the challenge ahead together".


I have long thought that FIRST is going to move FRC into the same format as FTC, FLL, and JR. FLL.....

Originally Posted by RocketDean

Did anybody notice that Dozer no longer has a "dozer" and now has hands with fingers?

Originally Posted by KeeganP

Alternatively, maybe we have another end game where you must raise the opposing flag up fastest (think 2011 but with flags, not minibots).

Originally Posted by GeeTwo

The manipulators on Gripper (the robot in the video) seem better adapted to pick up and position a flagpole than a ball.

Originally Posted by Trey178

What about lifting yourself onto the stronghold? I love watching teams take on a hanging/climbing feature.

Originally Posted by bEdhEd

I'm quite certain that the "champion" in the video is your team's competition robot.

That's what I thought, and still sort of think:

Looking even closer at Gripper's claws, they seem better at picking up small rectangular objects than round ones like balls or flagpoles. Gripper is also shown in the video at around 0:42 watching the action with the humans.

Synthesis:
Teams must build a robot which will assemble a Lego minibot from a bin of loose Lego parts. The minibot will enter the stronghold (probably also made of Legos), climb within the stronghold and fly a flag atop it.

[MooreteP]

Waited to post.

I'm gonna go with Flag Football.

Originally Posted by TAlholm

tl;dr
Lunacy on carpet? Defend the trailers.

While teams in general disliked Lunacy, its game theory was interesting. While you were taking the time to score, you could be scored upon in your trailer.

FIRST logo pieces will be triangles (flags).
Each Robot will have a flag attached to it that can be taken and scored.

I'm still stuck on the Game Stop hint that Frank supplied.
Co-opertition based upon ending the game early with the alliance members agreeing to hit the E-Stops. Your score gets multiplied.
You may be losing the battle, but improve your rank with a score multiplier by calling it a day.

[Boltman]

Its obvious at end of video the robots arms are positioned to carry a flag. Pretty sure the robot will have to transport a flagpole to some point on the tower.

[Zac Schofield]

So on usfirst.org, the banner they had for Stronghold on their main page had this on it before they edited it.
http://puu.sh/kL76B/4489c4c4ed.jpg

Why was "more" Spelt "m0re"?

[LlNUX]

So my theory is that this year is that FIRST is gonna enforce teams to use vision tracking or cameras. Teams would have to enter the opposing alliance Stronghold to retrieve flags from it however I think there will be some kind of wall preventing humans from seeing the robot inside the stronghold so our robots are gonna need cameras to be controlled and retrieve the flags. As for an end game I think there is gonna be 2 towers on the middle of the field in which teams can rise their flags to gain extra points. That is at least how I imagine the game from the teaser shown.

[kyle_hamblett]

Originally Posted by LlNUX

So my theory is that this year is that FIRST is gonna enforce teams to use vision tracking or cameras. Teams would have to enter the opposing alliance Stronghold to retrieve flags from it however I think there will be some kind of wall preventing humans from seeing the robot inside the stronghold so our robots are gonna need cameras to be controlled and retrieve the flags.

A robot selfie stick. Problem solved.

[sanddrag]

I've noticed the banner appear on DoubleClick ads while browsing online. Interesting.

[Mr. Rip]

I think everyone should start working on TreBotchets.

[JohnSchneider]

Originally Posted by Mr. Rip

I think everyone should start working on TreBotchets.

I don't know that launching robots will be a part of the game

[Nevada Reno]

i think it is a capture the flag or king of the hill or battle bots

team 5430 is still trying to figure it out

[Alex Chamberlin]

Originally Posted by JohnSchneider

I don't know that launching robots will be a part of the game

But what if it's legal.

[TheRozb]

Originally Posted by Alex Chamberlin

But what if it's legal.

Then the safety award would mean soo much more.

On another note, I really like the idea of incorporating a vision system as a 'requirement'. It seems like FRC is trying to move towards having teams build more than a epic drive base. Last year was all about the super-structure. I would not be surprised if this year involved maybe a smarter autonomous and an important vision system.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by sanddrag

I've noticed the banner appear on DoubleClick ads while browsing online. Interesting.

You aren't the only one. I've seen it on 2+ spots per page on occasion.