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Unread 17-11-2015, 21:32
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Re: Keeping in Touch & Remaining "Relevant"

I totally get this thread. <3

I was a student on 20 during a major transformation in team culture and I was a part of two of 20's most successful seasons ever. I left the team, and came back over winter break and at competitions to help. What I found is I could still help the team during build season with prototyping and design, but students and mentors have filled in my shoes for much of the area I once occupied- and that's a good thing. I still help 20 when I can when I'm around, and I talk to many people who attend meetings on a daily basis about different things on the team.

I compensated for 20 not needing me as much by finding another team to work with as well that's (slightly) closer to me. 5254 needs my help much more because they have so few students, so I help them more often and in a more involved manner than my help with 20.
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Re: Keeping in Touch & Remaining "Relevant"

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I compensated for 20 not needing me as much by finding another team to work with as well that's (slightly) closer to me. 5254 needs my help much more because they have so few students, so I help them more often and in a more involved manner than my help with 20.
This has been my strategy. While I haven't been graduated for as long as some of you, I've experienced the same feelings. Being 3 hours away from FRC 1257, I have started working with FRC 2791, which is a mere fifteen minute drive. They have a couple niches where a mentor with my skillset fits in well.

In addition, I've maintained a presence on my high school team's Slack channels, where most digital team discussions happen. I respond to questions and offer guidance when needed. It's a nice way to help out over the distance, though it wouldn't work if 1257 didn't use Slack to begin with.
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Re: Keeping in Touch & Remaining "Relevant"

Hi Kerry!

Since I know you talked with the Instigators previously, I only have two recommendations.
First, look into what events you can volunteer for, like everyone else said, since I know it would be great to have you at Escanaba, plus anyone one you can bring along.
The second is to look into forming a club or school organization for FIRST alumni or robot enthusiasts. We created one at Tech, where we coordinate mentors for the 3 area teams, and we created a collegiate team for MRDC for those that want to do more or do not wish to mentor. The club can be used to coordinate mentors for FTC or FLL as well, depending on what's started in the area. It can be whatever people want it to be.

Sidenote: I volunteered as a judge for FLL this year. Never had to learn the game for my role. Even if you don't know the specific game, you can find ways to volunteer.

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Re: Keeping in Touch & Remaining "Relevant"

Exactly how I ended up mentoring a team in Hollywood, Florida 3 and a half hours away while also mentoring a team in central Florida is one for a different thread, It has given me some experience mentoring a team too far for me to go down and visit frequently.
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If you've ever mentored long-distance, how did you remain in contact with your team? How successful were you?
In the case of 4592 I joined knowing my greatest help would be to streamline processes and provide educational resources as there main problem preventing success was a simple lack of direction and mistrust in common FIRST practices. It turned out the team already had a system for mentors to Skype into build meetings making it easy for me to teach CAD and communicate frequently enough that I would be considered part of the team and prevent the "celebrity appearance" problem that can arise when mentors rarely appear in build meetings.

Also, I found that being available via text message can be of huge help. For instance, when the mechanical team was unsure how to measure the relative success or failure of various bin grabber prototypes, it was relatively easy for me to explain that they needed to create an excel spreadsheet, do some time trials and, using excel's tools, figure out which ones where the fastest/ most consistent.
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How did you keep your fields of expertise relevant?
By finding ways to implement my areas of expertise into areas that I are not an expert in. In my case, only the programmers had ever used excel before while myself as a strategist and engineering major use it constantly. So when the mechanical team (possibly my weakest area of expertise) had a problem I tried to apply a solution that not only familiarized them with a tool they will likely use in the future but also allowed me to learn a little more mechanical design/ iteration by looking at what worked and what didn't.

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My fear, though, is that once I am graduated and able to mentor full-time, I'll have been out of the FRC community for long enough that I'll no longer be current on how everything works anymore.
Mentoring multiple teams could be an answer to this problem. There will always be rookie teams whom where ineligible to submit for awards in there previous year and less experienced teams who don't even know where to start when it comes to award presentation and submission. When I started mentoring 4592 basic concepts like iterating a design, match playbooks and consistency over features seamed completely foreign while on 1065 these things are done without even thinking about them since both our teacher and lead mentor have well over 10 years of first experience each.

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All that leaves me with is email and Google applications like Drive, where I can edit and comment the Chairman's documents in real time with them. Other than that, I don't have much opportunity for interaction.
Sounds helpful to me. Especially if no other mentors are available or the students want to work on it with a mentor while not at the build space. As for methods of communication, figure out what the students naturally use and go to that system. Ive spent more time on facebook talking to students about how to design gearboxes and edit promotional videos than just about anything else.

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how difficult was it to get back into the swing of things? How did you remain current on all the changes made?
As notorious as it is for things like FRC confessions, Twitter is actually really good for this. I've used it to do everything from contacting teams I had an interest in mentoring to seeing what happened during demos and multi team practice sessions that i couldn't attend.
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