FRC pocketing

[GeeTwo]

OK, now I'll take the opposite side:

Originally Posted by Cory

But the two points above make zero sense to me.

1) If the part is going on a CNC, the time it takes to pocket is trivial in most scenarios. Our gearbox plates would be run maybe 3-4 minutes quicker if they weren't pocketed. The time to setup the machine is the biggest sink, not the run time. I don't see what laziness even has to do with it. It requires more effort to manually mill any kind of gearbox plate than it does to CNC mill it.

Got no CNC. Got no manual mill. Got no plasma or laser cutter. Got no router. Got no sheet metal sponsor. Pocketing to us means a drill press or jig saw, or worse. Your 3-4 minutes would take us 3-4 days or more. You're on a different plane of existence from most of FRC.

Originally Posted by Cory

2) Your comment about "buying extra material just to throw it away" doesn't make any sense whatsoever. If my gearbox plate fits inside of a 6" long piece of .25" x 6" 6061 bar stock...how am I throwing material out? I'm certainly not pocketing material that is outside of the bounding box of the part. I'm pocketing material that is inside the perimeter of the part no matter what.

This "makes no sense whatsoever" makes no sense whatsoever. If all goes well, there never was meterial outside of the bounding box of the part. However, every bit of material that was originally inside the bounding box of the part but cut away (i.e. in a pocket) is thrown away (or hopefully recycled, especially if aluminum). I certainly hope you don't discount the material originally in the pockets from your BoM; that would have violated the last several years of rules!

Originally Posted by Cory

I'm glad that you think pocketing isn't necessary for your team, but 9/10 years 254 would not make weight without the heavy use of strategic pocketing.

As I said earlier, you're on a different level of play; birds vs mammals. The key item between pocketing as practiced by top level teams like 254 and most rookie teams is that 254 (please correct me if I'm wrong on this) planned the pocketing from the get-go and knew how much strength would remain, whereas rookie teams pocket out of desperation, without a good understanding of what is acceptable vice what is excessive. For us mid-level teams, it makes much more sense to select the proper strength members than to engineer them by buying over and pocketing down.