New AndyMark products 2016

[Basel A]

Originally Posted by Ty Tremblay

GameSense here. While I can't remember if it was said on a GS show or not, I can corroborate that I remember hearing that AndyMark did not know about the scoring platforms until after the AM14U2 went to production.

If it was mentioned in a GS episode, it'd probably be this one: https://youtu.be/OFQPemOh4bI

Edit: Evan Morrison found it: https://youtu.be/E33Gxjdi0PY?list=PL...Z02zZ6L&t=3016

I'm surprised about this based on the precedent of the 2010 KoP Chassis, which was clearly designed to handle the big bumps (I can't find a picture or drawings, unfortunately).

[Knufire]

Originally Posted by Basel A

I'm surprised about this based on the precedent of the 2010 KoP Chassis, which was clearly designed to handle the big bumps (I can't find a picture or drawings, unfortunately).

It's a year-to-year thing. Everything about the game pre-kickoff is obviously on a need to know basis; it's HQ's discretion to what and when suppliers know about the game.

There's also logistical requirements, the KoP chassis needs to go to production early enough in the year that they can all be manufactured and kitted in time for KoPs to ship to local kickoffs, regardless of how far along the game design is.

[Ty Tremblay]

Originally Posted by Basel A

I'm surprised about this based on the precedent of the 2010 KoP Chassis, which was clearly designed to handle the big bumps (I can't find a picture or drawings, unfortunately).

FIRST and FRC have gone through a LOT of changes since 2010. It's probably safe to assume that the GDC and their communication with 3rd party vendors varies from year-to-year, never mind over the course of 5 years.

I think a succinct way to say this would be: In FIRST, there really isn't such a thing as precedent.

[Basel A]

Originally Posted by Ty Tremblay

FIRST and FRC have gone through a LOT of changes since 2010. It's probably safe to assume that the GDC and their communication with 3rd party vendors varies from year-to-year, never mind over the course of 5 years.

I think a succinct way to say this would be: In FIRST, there really isn't such a thing as precedent.

I'm sure lots has changed, but FIRST has said that their game design process has gotten longer (i.e. more details decided earlier), so you'd expect vendors - especially a trusted vendor like AM - to have more information earlier on. I guess I'd say that with the focus on FIRST starting game design earlier and trying to get them locked in, it's disappointing that a game element as important as scoring platforms was added as late as October.

[AdamHeard]

Tank tracks don't have much place in FRC as a COTS item unless it's for climbing field obstacles.... This is a sign for sure imo.