Full encrypted manual?

[techhelpbb]

Brute force is really as much about the computing power as it is the clever use of it. Thanks to Amazon AWS, Google, Microsoft Azure and RackSpace there's plenty of brute force to access if you can pay for it.

Using the averages is fine when you have an huge set of things to break and in this case you have basically 1. So you must consider the outlying minimum.

Then there's the issue that you don't know how well the encrypting software salted or what quality the source of randomness was it used.

All in all I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was well within the ability of a nationstate to crack that between now and kickoff.

Not sure how badly you want to know this game you'd go through all that trouble.
I can think of about 20 ways off hand that would be far easier to find out the field design or the whole game a lot easier.
No - I won't elaborate because saying not to give yourself an unfair advantage is all that needs to be said.

[Ari423]

Originally Posted by techhelpbb

Not sure how badly you want to know this game you'd go through all that trouble.
I can think of about 20 ways off hand that would be far easier to find out the field design or the whole game a lot easier.
No - I won't elaborate because saying not to give yourself and unfair advantage is all that needs to be said.

If you decide you don't want to be GP and want more time to work on your robot, it's a lot easier to not bag your robot and fake the lock-up form. Same effect, a lot less work.

But I'm confident no FIRST teams would do that.

[techhelpbb]

Originally Posted by Ari423

If you decide you don't want to be GP and want more time to work on your robot, it's a lot easier to not bag your robot and fake the lock-up form. Same effect, a lot less work.

But I'm confident no FIRST teams would do that.

You can legally build a practice robot - just don't bring it near the competition assembled.

A large percentage of the ChiefDelphi readers belong to teams that do just this based on my recent poll this year (including myself).

There are some limits obviously - you can only legally and practically change so much at the competition but it does give you some advantage. It can also bootstrap changing things between competitions.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Ari423

If you decide you don't want to be GP and want more time to work on your robot, it's a lot easier to not bag your robot and fake the lock-up form. Same effect, a lot less work.

But I'm confident no FIRST teams would do that.

Intentionally, you mean. There have been several that did something like that accidentally, not realizing it was against the rules. The fun part is when you put the bag on in the parking lot... in full view of the inspectors watching for teams to come in... Not sure exactly what happened with that one, but I believe the LRI was called over.

[GaryVoshol]

I'm sure it's a case of them wanting to be able to update the manual as late as possible before releasing it.

[GeeTwo]

Originally Posted by EricH

Intentionally, you mean. There have been several that did something like that accidentally, not realizing it was against the rules.

Wow. Hopefully, anybody reading this thread is at least checking the basics.

[Andrew Schreiber]

Originally Posted by GeeTwo

Wow. Hopefully, anybody reading this thread is at least checking the basics.

You'd be surprised.

[GeeTwo]

Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber

You'd be surprised.

I did specify this thread, and I did qualify it with hope rather than express certainty. Both were intentional.