Go to Post I haven't seen it yet, but I have complete confidence in him, because he is Andy Baker. - Alan Anderson [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > FIRST > General Forum
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
View Poll Results: What is your favorite feature of the SD540?
Light Weight 25 20.33%
Low Cost 47 38.21%
Multi-Bank Option 31 25.20%
I do not like this product. 47 38.21%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 123. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
  #13   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 01-04-2016, 11:07 AM
s1900ahon s1900ahon is offline
Registered User
AKA: Scott McMahon
FRC #2468 (Appreciate)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: May 2008
Rookie Year: 2008
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 155
s1900ahon has a brilliant futures1900ahon has a brilliant futures1900ahon has a brilliant futures1900ahon has a brilliant futures1900ahon has a brilliant futures1900ahon has a brilliant futures1900ahon has a brilliant futures1900ahon has a brilliant futures1900ahon has a brilliant futures1900ahon has a brilliant futures1900ahon has a brilliant future
Re: SD540 Motor Controller

Quote:
Originally Posted by philso View Post
Thanks for your input, Scott. It is interesting to get your perspective as a power electronics professional.
Ha ha.. I have to LOL on that comment. I'd hardly give myself that attribute. I'm an embedded semiconductor kind of guy (architecture/hardware/software). My experience with power electronics is due to my being employed at Luminary Micro some years ago who built microcontrollers (MCUs) for use in applications such as motor control. Specifically, you can blame me for Jaguar (he ducks as rotten tomatoes are hurled in his direction).

Quote:
If changing the refresh time will make the MOSFETs saturate properly, they could update the firmware in the original and improve it's performance too.
To be clear, I wasn't suggesting that the Cboot voltage was decaying and affecting the Vgs level on the high-side MOSFETs. Actually, the scenario I was thinking about was that the they were over refreshing and therefore incurring an un-necessary drop in efficiency.

The Cboot cap is charged up when the connected terminal (M+ or M-, there is one Cboot for each) is driven low (the low-side MOSFET is turned on). The cap charges through a diode and current limiting resistor. The Cboot charge time is therefore 3-5 RCboot times. But, the firmware in the MCU controls the timing. If you're curious, check out the Jaguar's published schematics.

Quote:
The stated change to make the "B" version was to remove the under-voltage lockout feature which should have no effect on how the MOSFET gates are controlled during "normal" operation.
Yeah, the under voltage would be the VBUS voltage reduced by a divider circuit to an ADC input, being sampled by firmware, and setting a different trip point value or updated software-based filtering to activate exceptional processing. Also a firmware change (likely).

Quote:
It would be interesting to see if anyone who has an SD540 or SD540B can put a scope probe on the output. It is possible that the SD540B uses a switching frequency lower than 32.25 kHz to cut the switching losses in half. I would also be interested to see how clean the output waveforms are. I have had to fix inverters where poor internal layout led to excessive voltage surges which led the designers to greatly increase the gate resistance (increasing switching losses and allowing the Miller Capacitance to cause oscillations).
Agreed. From a pure curiosity perspective, I'd like to see this done for all motor controllers. It would provide some insight into the real power loss (IRds(on)). It is easy to see: connect small resistive load across M+/M-, connect scope to M+ and V-(ground), set output to 100% forward, measure duty cycle and frequency on scope.

Scott
Reply With Quote
 


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:35 PM.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi