9328490238209

[FrankJ]

Has anybody checked to see if it is the password to the game manual?

[CadetGizmo]

Originally Posted by FrankJ

Has anybody checked to see if it is the password to the game manual?

Is the game manual out yet?

[maxnz]

Originally Posted by FrankJ

Has anybody checked to see if it is the password to the game manual?

I highly doubt it. Usually they are a combination of letters, numbers and special characters. Also, the codes from the last few years seem to be at least 14 characters or more.

[JoshWilson]

Originally Posted by CadetGizmo

True, I guess. Although the amount of speculation that's being put behind a 13 digit number is pretty cool, regardless.

So true.

[The_ShamWOW88]

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#TrollHard

[jvriezen]

Originally Posted by GeeTwo

It has two prime factors: 1551037 and 6014357.

For an arbitrary 13 digit number, its pretty unlikely to have only two prime factors and both 7 digits is even less likely. I'd suggest that these two numbers are worth further investigation.

Either the entire thing is a ruse and they chose the product of two relatively small primes just to lead to further useless lines of attack, or else the prime numbers are significant. Since its unlikely that the messages would directly encode into primes, maybe this:

1551037 = 117739th prime
6014357 = 413787th prime

[gegozi]

Originally Posted by Culvan Van Li

That actually seems unlikely since there is no number 5. Also left out 1, 6 & 7. Is the clue in the omission? Is there anything interesting from 1, 5, 6 & 7?

Maybe someone tried to spell something out on a phone keypad or make patterns with the numbers? Not sure how to treat the 0's for a phone keypad.

I tried some combinations, one of the better ones is zebu iz beta x
Zebu is a type of oxen. Maybe oxen on field?

EDIT: web tiz beta x also works...

[JoshWilson]

Originally Posted by gegozi

I tried some combinations, one of the better ones is zebu iz beta x
Zebu is a type of oxen. Maybe oxen on field?

Although Zebu come from South Asia, so I don't see how that would go with the current mideval theme. Unless maybe that's just a clue for finding the actual meaning/hint, if any?

[SpaceBiz]

Originally Posted by jvriezen

For an arbitrary 13 digit number, its pretty unlikely to have only two prime factors and both 7 digits is even less likely. I'd suggest that these two numbers are worth further investigation.

Either the entire thing is a ruse and they chose the product of two relatively small primes just to lead to further useless lines of attack, or else the prime numbers are significant. Since its unlikely that the messages would directly encode into primes, maybe this:

1551037 = 117739th prime
6014357 = 413787th prime

I strongly agree.

There are 586081 7 digit prime numbers. This means there are about 2*10^11 numbers with only 2 7 digit primes as factors. Only about 1 in 5 of these are 13 digits. There are about 10^14 13 digit numbers.

this means the probability of this as a random occurrence is about 1 in 250 (0.4%)

This is a large enough probability to encode data, but small enough probability to indicate significance.

117739 only has two factors excluding one and itself. They are both prime

281 (50th prime)
419 (81st prime)

This also seems improbable, only about 10,000 numbers with exclusively 3 digit prime factors exist. Not all of these will be 7 digits. The odds of one of these numbers having this characteristic will be about 1.6%.

People should look deeper into this.

[gegozi]

Originally Posted by SpaceBiz

I strongly agree.

There are 586081 7 digit prime numbers. This means there are about 2*10^11 numbers with only 2 7 digit primes as factors. Only about 1 in 5 of these are 13 digits. There are about 10^14 13 digit numbers.

this means the probability of this as a random occurrence is about 1 in 250 (0.4%)

This is a large enough probability to encode data, but small enough probability to indicate significance.

117739 only has two factors excluding one and itself. They are both prime

281 (50th prime)
419 (81st prime)

This also seems improbable, only about 10,000 numbers with exclusively 3 digit prime factors exist. Not all of these will be 7 digits. The odds of one of these numbers having this characteristic will be about 1.6%.

People should look deeper into this.

I agree with this.

Originally Posted by JoshWilson

Although Zebu come from South Asia, so I don't see how that would go with the current mideval theme. Unless maybe that's just a clue for finding the actual meaning/hint, if any?

I may have been unclear. I was just stating one possibility that I found, and I later found web tiz beta x. I'm not sure if either help, but they could be a starting point.

I have a feeling that combining multiple ideas together will be the key to the answer and potentially an early game...

[zinthorne]

Well I decided to look into the history of teams with the same team numbers as listed. If you go in order from the begging starting with 9. (Number for reference 9328490238209) 9 does not exist anymore. 3 no longer exists. 2 no longer exists. 8 does exist, but when changed to 84, that team does not exist. 9 does not exist. 0 does not exist. 2 does not exist. 3 does not exist. 8 does exist, but 82 does not exist. 0 does not exist. 9 does not exist.

I don't know if this means anything, but I find it interesting that most of the numbers that are listed are of teams that do not exist excluding 8 and 4. Yet when 8 is combined with the net number in the sequence that team does not exist. 9 is listed on TBA but stopped playing years ago. Maybe research into team names or something common of the teams that don't exist? I used TBA to look up team numbers. I find it hard to believe that it is possible for this to happen so easily...

[gegozi]

Originally Posted by zinthorne

Well I decided to look into the history of teams with the same team numbers as listed. If you go in order from the begging starting with 9. (Number for reference 9328490238209) 9 does not exist anymore. 3 no longer exists. 2 no longer exists. 8 does exist, but when changed to 84, that team does not exist. 9 does not exist. 0 does not exist. 2 does not exist. 3 does not exist. 8 does exist, but 82 does not exist. 0 does not exist. 9 does not exist.

I don't know if this means anything, but I find it interesting that most of the numbers that are listed are of teams that do not exist excluding 8 and 4. Yet when 8 is combined with the net number in the sequence that team does not exist. 9 is listed on TBA but stopped playing years ago. Maybe research into team names or something common of the teams that don't exist? I used TBA to look up team numbers. I find it hard to believe that it is possible for this to happen so easily...

I feel like its all related. The prime numbers, web tiz beta x, and the team numbers.

I found this definition of beta on Merriam Webster.

a measure of the risk potential of a stock or an investment portfolio expressed as a ratio of the stock's or portfolio's volatility to the volatility of the market as a whole

The "risk potential of a stock" could be the significance of the number referred to by SpaceBiz.

They want to baffle us so they give us something as hard as this. Thank you FIRST.

[SpaceBiz]

Originally Posted by dardeshna

Our head coach suggested looking at patents
http://www.google.com/patents/US6014357
http://www.google.com/patents/US1551037

Also a quick google search
https://www.phoenixcontact.com/onlin...ary=usen&tab=1

Click on the one for 1551037 It is dated august 25, 1925

It is the 25th anniversary of first

odds this is a coincidence are less than 1 in 3000 (.033%)

Plus disney makes motion pictures

[maxnz]

If you take the four digits that aren't in the number (1, 5, 6, 7) and shuffle them a little, you get 1675, which is the number for the team 'The Ultimate Protection Squad'. Maybe a coincidence, maybe not.

[gegozi]

I think that some of the ideas in this forum are exaggerations, and we should remember everything that was given to us.
All we can confirm is that the teaser is a hint. We are not sure this number even has any significance.
I feel that they gave us this as a troll, but again, we do not know anything until kickoff, or we somehow decrypt the manual.
It could be a hint, this mystery is FIRST's mission to add to the ambiguity that is already existent.

I would like to see what Frank thinks about this discussion. It would be interesting to see an insiders view on our discussions as outsiders. I would like to see what we think about this discussion AFTER kickoff when we know the game and we are insiders...