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[FRC Blog] Surprise!

Posted on the FRC Blog, 1/6/16: http://www.firstinspires.org/robotics/frc/blog/surprise

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Surprise!

Today’s blog post was written by Jonathan Bryant, Kit of Parts Engineer. (2016 Jan 05)

We’re using today’s blog to tell you about three juicy pieces of information from the Robot section of the Game Manual and the Kit of Parts.

First, R14. R14 – Software and mechanical/electrical designs created before Kickoff are only permitted if the source files (complete information sufficient to produce the design) are available publicly prior to Kickoff.

So, if you already have a design, and you want to use it this year, post it publicly now.

Second, Motors.

In a former blog post we declared Banebots 775 and 550 motors illegal for the 2016 season. This was because Banebots was no longer producing the motor and we wanted to ensure all teams had access to the same set of motors. After seeing feedback from the community, Banebots was able to work with us and start back up production of the 775 and 550! Banebots will have sufficient stock of both motors for the coming season and thus M7-RS775-18 and M5-RS550-12 will be legal for 2016!

Third, Kit of Parts sizes and weights.

2016 Kickoff Kits will consist of the following items for all teams (sizes and weights are approximate):
  1. One set of items, collectively, 27 in. x 17 in. x 13 in., 48 lbs.
  2. One set of items, collectively, 2 in. x 2 in. x 48 in., 5 lbs.
  3. One item, 8 in. x 3 in. x 7 in., 14 lbs.
2016 Kickoff Kits will include the following additional items for Rookie Teams only:
  1. One set of items, collectively, 27 in. x 17 in. x 13 in., 33 lbs.
  2. One item, 8 in. x 3 in. x 7 in., 14 lbs.
Teams who did not opt out of the Drive Base Kit will also receive the following item:
  1. One set of items, collectively, 7 in. x 7 in. x 34 in., 28 lbs.
Teams who opted into receiving an additional Kickoff Kit’s worth of game pieces will receive:
  1. (redacted)

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Re: [FRC Blog] Surprise!

Tote weights for reference:
2016 - 48 lbs
2015 - 60 lbs
2014 - 60 lbs
2013 - 48 lbs
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Re: [FRC Blog] Surprise!

1. One set of items, collectively, 27 in. x 17 in. x 13 in., 48 lbs.
2. One set of items, collectively, 2 in. x 2 in. x 48 in., 5 lbs.
3. One item, 8 in. x 3 in. x 7 in., 14 lbs.

Item 1 is clearly a tote. (Recycle rush Definitely taught me the dimensions of those).

So speculation for game pieces lies with item 2 and 3.

a single 14lb item is pretty heavy especially since it is only 168 cubic inches. It does not appear to be a ball unless its a box of smaller balls. (Cananobals?)

The second set of items to me looks like spare parts similarly to how they gave out the L Stock last year. Although it could definitely be a flag pole.

Hmmmmm
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1. One set of items, collectively, 27 in. x 17 in. x 13 in., 48 lbs.
2. One set of items, collectively, 2 in. x 2 in. x 48 in., 5 lbs.
3. One item, 8 in. x 3 in. x 7 in., 14 lbs.

Item 1 is clearly a tote. (Recycle rush Definitely taught me the dimensions of those).

So speculation for game pieces lies with item 2 and 3.

a single 14lb item is pretty heavy especially since it is only 168 cubic inches. It does not appear to be a ball unless its a box of smaller balls. (Cananobals?)

The second set of items to me looks like spare parts similarly to how they gave out the L Stock last year. Although it could definitely be a flag pole.

Hmmmmm
Clearly they are combining the sports of curling and jousting.
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1. One set of items, collectively, 27 in. x 17 in. x 13 in., 48 lbs.
2. One set of items, collectively, 2 in. x 2 in. x 48 in., 5 lbs.
3. One item, 8 in. x 3 in. x 7 in., 14 lbs.

Item 1 is clearly a tote. (Recycle rush Definitely taught me the dimensions of those).

So speculation for game pieces lies with item 2 and 3.

a single 14lb item is pretty heavy especially since it is only 168 cubic inches. It does not appear to be a ball unless its a box of smaller balls. (Cananobals?)

The second set of items to me looks like spare parts similarly to how they gave out the L Stock last year. Although it could definitely be a flag pole.

Hmmmmm
I'm pretty sure number 3 is a battery and rookies get 2.

Dimensions per AndyMark, http://www.andymark.com/battery-p/am-3062.htm
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Robot swords...ROBOT SWORDS.
incoming jousting matches?

I'm also curious about the 14lb item. its roughly battery sized? And its only 1 item? Would they say its 1 item if its a box of little "cannonballs"?
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Weird that there is no mention of 775 pro being legal.
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I'm pretty sure number 3 is a battery and rookies get 2.

Dimensions per AndyMark, http://www.andymark.com/battery-p/am-3062.htm
Sadly, you're probably right. Curling stones are much heavier than 14 pounds.
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Re: [FRC Blog] Surprise!

Sweet!
Thanks for the update and the KoP information.
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Weird that there is no mention of 775 pro being legal.
It is.

I wouldn't lose hope yet. I would assume they thought it was important to make it very public that they reversed a decision they had made public earlier in the year.
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Weird that there is no mention of 775 pro being legal.
I just submitted a question about 775 Pro's legality to the Blog.
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Robot swords...ROBOT SWORDS.
That would be one of the awesomest things ever.
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I'm pretty sure number 3 is a battery and rookies get 2.

Dimensions per AndyMark, http://www.andymark.com/battery-p/am-3062.htm
Number 3 is almost certainly the battery, as they always include them - every year we see " One item, 8 in. x 3 in. x 7 in., 14 lbs." and it is always the batter. Number 2 looks like Aluminum to me.
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