Cheating in FRC

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Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber

To put it bluntly - lying to judges is more common than you'd expect.

On Chairmans:
Exaggerating in Chairman's is almost expected (we'll see how the new guidelines impact this) And I know that many teams rely on adults to work on Chairman's in the same way that they rely on adults in the design and fabrication process. I don't see this as a problem at all. We are there as mentors not as baby sitters, and we should be leveraging our knowledge and experience to make sure the team produces the best results it can. Now, I don't think a team where the adults do all the Chairman's prep work, students present it, and they win at the HoF level is a good result, I also don't think it's possible.

My key word for what you quoted me is "allegedly." For all I know, the student could be interpreting the exaggeration of facts as lies, when they're just doing basic marketing to make their team look good. Also, the mentor involvement may be seen as excessive when it could indeed be appropriate. OP isn't a rookie, but still may be inexperienced in the nuances of award submissions and could be misinterpreting what is actually happening.

I was just giving OP the benefit of the doubt.

This is why the reporting is so important. This needs to be sorted out between that team and FIRST, not us. The furthest we should go is make that very suggestion.

I would like this to be my last contribution to this thread, which I hope is removed for the reasons I have stated in my previous reply.