FIRST STRONGHOLD Discussion

[ATannahill]

Originally Posted by Redo91

Check out 5.5.10 in the Game Manual, it has information regarding DEFENSES.

I have read this section, along with section 2.2.2.1. I am fairly confident in my first statement, but not the second. I looked through the figures in the manual and none have the defenses repeated.

[ATannahill]

Originally Posted by The Devinator

Can a defense be broken in autonomous mode?

You should check page 31. A defense can be damaged (please use the correct term so that searches will pull this post up as a result in the future) if two different robots cross it in autonomous.

[Redo91]

Originally Posted by The Devinator

Can a defense be broken in autonomous mode?

Section 3.1.3 of the Game Manual has the information you seek.

[Alex Webber]

We had a quick question regarding the towers,

If the tower has been weakened to 0, if a robot shoots an additional Boulder at the tower, and it goes into a goal, does the alliance still gain points?

If the tower has been weakened, will the points from the balls still continue?

Thanks, and looking forward to this amazing game

[MikLast]

on the diagram on page 3, section 1.2 (same image is also on Page 8, section 2) , it shows the audience selected items one to the right of the center. On page 100 however (5.5.10.1) it says that it belongs in the center outer works spot. Am i correct in saying that the pictures in question are in error?

[ATannahill]

Originally Posted by MikLast

on the diagram on page 3, section 1.2 (same image is also on Page 8, section 2) , it shows the audience selected items one to the right of the center. On page 100 however (5.5.10.1) it says that it belongs in the center outer works spot. Am i correct in saying that the pictures in question are in error?

What diagram are you talking about? Can you give a figure number?

The audience selected item goes in slot 3, which is the center defense. Because of the secret passage, the center defense is not in the center of the field.

[MikLast]

Originally Posted by rtfgnow

What diagram are you talking about? Can you give a figure number?

The audience selected item goes in slot 3, which is the center defense. Because of the secret passage, the center defense is not in the center of the field.

Figure 2-1. By center i mean the center of the 5 outer works, or spot 3. In Figure 2.1 it shows the audience selected one in Position 4/2.

[Redo91]

Originally Posted by Alex Webber

We had a quick question regarding the towers,

If the tower has been weakened to 0, if a robot shoots an additional Boulder at the tower, and it goes into a goal, does the alliance still gain points?

If the tower has been weakened, will the points from the balls still continue?

Thanks, and looking forward to this amazing game

Double check section 3.1.4 and section 3.3.1 of the Game Manual.

[Team5730-Pros]

Originally Posted by rtfgnow

You can get points for crossing each defense twice because the defense is not damaged until the defense's strength is zero. You can only get points for crossing or weaken a defense once in auto.

Can you damage your own defense by using it to cross into the neutral zone instead of the secret passage, and if so can you find a rule that states this?

[ATannahill]

Originally Posted by MikLast

Figure 2.1. By center i mean the center of the 5 outer works, or spot 3. In Figure 2.1 it shows the audience selected one in Position 4/2.

FYI, the figure titles are hyphenated, I couldn't find it by using the find function and 2.1.

How do you know which ones are audience selected? The text does not tell you.

If I understand the audience selection process correctly than the same defense should be used on both sides, there is no defense repeated expect for the low bar.

[Redo91]

Originally Posted by MikLast

Figure 2.1. By center i mean the center of the 5 outer works, or spot 3. In Figure 2.1 it shows the audience selected one in Position 4/2.

Figure 2-1 looks to just be a CAD rendering of the field with all the different DEFENSES installed.

[ATannahill]

Originally Posted by Team5730-Pros

Can you damage your own defense by using it to cross into the neutral zone instead of the secret passage, and if so can you find a rule that states this?

You cannot damage (successful crossing twice) a defense by moving from a courtyard into the neutral zone because the definition of crossing (pg. 31) requires you move the opposite direction.

[MikLast]

Originally Posted by rtfgnow

FYI, the figure titles are hyphenated, I couldn't find it by using the find function and 2.1.

How do you know which ones are audience selected? The text does not tell you.

If I understand the audience selection process correctly than the same defense should be used on both sides, there is no defense repeated expect for the low bar.

The post will be edited to make sure people can find it.

Page 100, 5.5.10.1 says that the audience selects Outer Works pos 3, and in figure 2-4, it shows pos 3 as in the center (of the 5 outer works spots) and in fugure 2-1 the audience selected is in pos 2 and 4, which is incorrect.

[Harharhoman]

Originally Posted by MikLast

on the diagram on page 3, section 1.2 (same image is also on Page 8, section 2) , it shows the audience selected items one to the right of the center. On page 100 however (5.5.10.1) it says that it belongs in the center outer works spot. Am i correct in saying that the pictures in question are in error?

For what I have found, the picture is wrong since the field tour video also said that it was the middle/center defense was chosen by the audience.

My question is how do they choose, is it a poll or measured in decibels?

[Team5730-Pros]

Originally Posted by rtfgnow

You cannot damage (successful crossing twice) a defense by moving from a courtyard into the neutral zone because the definition of crossing (pg. 31) requires you move the opposite direction.

can you damage your own defense if you go from the neutral zone into your own courtyard?