FIRST STRONGHOLD Discussion

[MikLast]

Originally Posted by rtfgnow

What diagram are you talking about? Can you give a figure number?

The audience selected item goes in slot 3, which is the center defense. Because of the secret passage, the center defense is not in the center of the field.

Figure 2-1. By center i mean the center of the 5 outer works, or spot 3. In Figure 2.1 it shows the audience selected one in Position 4/2.

[ATannahill]

Originally Posted by MikLast

Figure 2.1. By center i mean the center of the 5 outer works, or spot 3. In Figure 2.1 it shows the audience selected one in Position 4/2.

FYI, the figure titles are hyphenated, I couldn't find it by using the find function and 2.1.

How do you know which ones are audience selected? The text does not tell you.

If I understand the audience selection process correctly than the same defense should be used on both sides, there is no defense repeated expect for the low bar.

[MikLast]

Originally Posted by rtfgnow

FYI, the figure titles are hyphenated, I couldn't find it by using the find function and 2.1.

How do you know which ones are audience selected? The text does not tell you.

If I understand the audience selection process correctly than the same defense should be used on both sides, there is no defense repeated expect for the low bar.

The post will be edited to make sure people can find it.

Page 100, 5.5.10.1 says that the audience selects Outer Works pos 3, and in figure 2-4, it shows pos 3 as in the center (of the 5 outer works spots) and in fugure 2-1 the audience selected is in pos 2 and 4, which is incorrect.

[ATannahill]

Originally Posted by MikLast

The post will be edited to make sure people can find it.

Page 100, 5.5.10.1 says that the audience selects Outer Works pos 3, and in figure 2-4, it shows pos 3 as in the center (of the 5 outer works spots) and in fugure 2-1 the audience selected is in pos 2 and 4, which is incorrect.

How are you seeing that the audience selected ones are in 2 and 4?

[MikLast]

Originally Posted by rtfgnow

How are you seeing that the audience selected ones are in 2 and 4?

Group A pieces are the audience selected ones. those are the ones pos 2/4.

[Redo91]

Originally Posted by MikLast

Group A pieces are the audience selected ones. those are the ones pos 2/4.

You need to reread the rules governing how the DEFENSES are selected, in section 5.5.10.

[MikLast]

Originally Posted by Redo91

You need to reread the rules governing how the DEFENSES are selected, in section 5.5.10.

if you read my other comments, you would see i was referencing the fact that figure 2-1 is incorrect, as it shows them in the wrong position, unless you are pointing something else out, which next time would be great to know instead of being broad.

[ATannahill]

Originally Posted by MikLast

if you read my other comments, you would see i was referencing the fact that figure 2-1 is incorrect, as it shows them in the wrong position, unless you are pointing something else out, which next time would be great to know instead of being broad.

Category A is not the one that is always chosen by the audience. The category will change throughout the event.

[MikLast]

Originally Posted by rtfgnow

Category A is not the one that is always chosen by the audience. The category will change throughout the event.

Ah, i thought this excluded group A. My mistake, thank you.

[Mikyway]

Would it be possible and viable to just have your robot stand in front of the human player station and launch boulders into the tower like some teams did with the frisbees in Ultimate Ascent

[rich2202]

Originally Posted by Mikyway

Would it be possible and viable to just have your robot stand in front of the human player station and launch boulders into the tower like some teams did with the frisbees in Ultimate Ascent

See G39

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Mikyway

Would it be possible and viable to just have your robot stand in front of the human player station and launch boulders into the tower like some teams did with the frisbees in Ultimate Ascent

No. Tech Foul. You have to be in your opponents' Courtyard to launch.

[vigneshv]

Originally Posted by Mikyway

Would it be possible and viable to just have your robot stand in front of the human player station and launch boulders into the tower like some teams did with the frisbees in Ultimate Ascent

Nope, that would be against the rules. They state that you must meet the conditions of being in contact with the boulder through a defense as you move the boulder through. You cannot shoot over the defense.

[MaGiC_PiKaChU]

Originally Posted by vigneshv

Nope, that would be against the rules. They state that you must meet the conditions of being in contact with the boulder through a defense as you move the boulder through. You cannot shoot over the defense.

Is this also valid for autonomous? Because that would make a 2-ball pretty impossible. (can't wait to see a team prove me wrong)

[alicen]

Originally Posted by MikLast

if you read my other comments, you would see i was referencing the fact that figure 2-1 is incorrect, as it shows them in the wrong position, unless you are pointing something else out, which next time would be great to know instead of being broad.

The audience chosen defenses are not always the tall tower/door looking defense. The audience chooses one of the two defense choices from a predetermined category that is generated with the match schedule.

In figure 2-1, it appears that the audience chosen defenses were from Category B

Hope that helps!