FIRST STRONGHOLD Discussion

[MikLast]

Originally Posted by Hugekase

I am still really confused on the whole spy thing, it seems like a not needed thing, and if you move it out of it's area, you could get fouled on it, whats the point of it?

Are you confused on the Spy Box, the Spy Bot, or both?

[Bentorino]

Originally Posted by EricLeifermann

Anybody else notice 1 boulder is $35.00 from andymark?!?!? Seems crazy expensive, or did I read the description wrong and you get more than 1?

Gopher balls are pretty expensive! If you want just the same balls, you can buy the rainbow set, but it won't be FIRST branded.

Set of 6 is going for around $200: http://www.gophersport.com/pe/premiu...gaAv3l8P8 HAQ

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Hugekase

I am still really confused on the whole spy thing, it seems like a not needed thing, and if you move it out of it's area, you could get fouled on it, whats the point of it?

There are two spies.

Spy BOX: Place where a human stands (Driver or Human Player). They act as an extra set of eyes.

Spy BOT: Robot that starts in the Courtyard. No difference from any other robot on the alliance other than starting location.

[Redo91]

Originally Posted by Hugekase

Ok, so on the line of that, so the spy bot can not be controlled once in the box, only in the round?

And, on the other hand, what is the advantage of having the spy bot? Is it required?

The issue seems to be that SPY is not defined in the GLOSSARY. If you check out the definition of SPY BOX, though, it is located outside the FIELD. Rule G9 then discusses the occupant of the SPY BOX.Check out rule G7, it talks about the "spy bot".

[Redo91]

Originally Posted by Bentorino

Gopher balls are pretty expensive! If you want just the same dimensinos and firmness you can buy the rainbow set, but it won't be FIRST branded.

Set of 6 is going for around $80: http://www.gophersport.com/pe/premiu...gaAv3l8P8 HAQ

Make sure you have the correct diameter selected, the 10 inch set is $205.

[michchinn]

Originally Posted by Bentorino

Gopher balls are pretty expensive! If you want just the same dimensinos and firmness you can buy the rainbow set, but it won't be FIRST branded.

Set of 6 is going for around $80: http://www.gophersport.com/pe/premiu...gaAv3l8P8 HAQ

Check your diameter. The 10” balls on the website you attached are $205 for a set of 6. It is $80 only for the 6.3” diameter balls.

[Hugekase]

Alright, this makes a lot more sense about the spy, now then, what about the secret passage, where is the exact rules on it, and if the same team can bypass the defenses on there side.

[ATannahill]

Originally Posted by Hugekase

Alright, this makes a lot more sense about the spy, now then, what about the secret passage, where is the exact rules on it, and if the same team can bypass the defenses on there side.

What are you thoughts? Open the pdf of the manual and use the find function to search for secret passage.

[H78]

Does anyone know if the Q&A system is open, or when it opens if it isn't yet? How do you ask a question, when it's open?

[GaryVoshol]

Originally Posted by DWCEagles228

Refree job is hell even more

Naah, just give me an decibel measuring app.

Although I suspect we will be busy scoring points for CROSSINGS.

[GaryVoshol]

Originally Posted by jajabinx124

I think it's just blue HDPE... it better be HDPE..

He had to take his shoes off ....

[EricH]

Originally Posted by H78

Does anyone know if the Q&A system is open, or when it opens if it isn't yet? How do you ask a question, when it's open?

It is not open. It's not open to try to force everybody to actually read the Manual.

It should open up mid-week--tradition is that it opens on the first Wednesday of build season, AFTER Team Update #1 comes out on Tuesday.

And when it's open, they'll have a message out on how to use it.

[GaryVoshol]

Originally Posted by MikLast

For rule G22, would it be considered pinning if a robot was to inhibit forward motion while the opposing robot was in an defense?

For example, if the opposing robot was trying to move past one of the barriers and blocked forward motion into our side, would that be considered pinning?

Past interpretations have been that if a robot has a path out, it's not a pin. You have to contact the robot and prevent it from moving for it to be a pin.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol

Past interpretations have been that if a robot has a path out, it's not a pin. You have to contact the robot and prevent it from moving for it to be a pin.

However, there is another rule that could be in play. If they're heading to or from your Courtyard, and you interfere, there's a foul for that.

[picklecrackers]

Has anyone found anything regarding how the boulders must be rolled into the secret passages? Do they have to be entered using a bowling-type fashion?