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Re: Secret Passage

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Originally Posted by KosmicKhaos View Post
G11: You CANNOT cause your opponent to get a foul as a strategy.

If a robot is blocking your secret passage and you contact them to get them out of the way, you are not strategically causing them to get a foul but rather trying to get to your secret passage and get them out of the way. You are simply trying to play the game, not draw a penalty.

No matter who initiates the contact it is still contact and I believe that the robot defending the secret passage will get a penalty for contacting in the secret passage.

As long as the robot trying to get to the secret passage is not repeatedly hitting the robot trying to intentionally draw fouls, they will not receive a G11, but the defending robot will receive a Contact penalty.
Now here's the question. Contact--in this context--generally is attributed to whoever's doing the moving to initiate.

So: I hop into your Secret Passage to get a boulder, you're nowhere around. You come piling in to get a different boulder and hit me as I'm trying to get out, making no move towards you. You initiated the contact, but without strategy to do so.

Who gets the penalty if one is given and why? Hint: It's not you. G11 only applies to strategies. And if it's me, I'll be wondering why I get a penalty when you contact me.



My personal opinion on G11 is that the GDC didn't learn from 2011 and 2012 when similar rules were in play. Concept = good. Implementation--Frank, we'll need some clarification in TU#1, please.
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