Spy and Spybot

[andrew_103]

There is a question out of my team about whether or not to have a spy, you must also have a spybot, and vice versa. Does anyone have clear evidence to indicate if this is true or not?

[dirtbikerxz]

You don't need a spy bot. And I don't see any reason why the second human player shouldn't be a spy. There isn't much else they can do.

[andrew_103]

So then, just to clarify, we can have a spy without a spy bot and we can have a spy bot without a spy. Yes?

[dirtbikerxz]

im 99.99 percent certain yes.

[rich2202]

You can have a spy (human player) without a spy bot.

[andrew_103]

Ok thanks

[cait.schroeder]

Yeah the spybot currently does not seem entirely useful as of now but as strategies develop and people realize the pros and cons I believe it may become an interesting tool. My team and I are still a little unclear on the exact rules and regulations of choosing to spy but we aren't looking at it as a very viable option anyway.

[andrew_103]

Yea my team is having a similar discussion as to the usefulness of having a spybot and what advantages it would yield.

[dirtbikerxz]

Originally Posted by cait.schroeder

Yeah the spybot currently does not seem entirely useful as of now but as strategies develop and people realize the pros and cons I believe it may become an interesting tool. My team and I are still a little unclear on the exact rules and regulations of choosing to spy but we aren't looking at it as a very viable option anyway.

It can actually be very useful. While the name "spy bot" is stupid. It can be used as a way to score a goal during autonomus (because all bots can start with one ball on any side). (10 points high goal, 5 points low goal which is much more than teleop scoring). Or the bot can be used to quickly come hold open a drawbridge or gate at the beginning of a teleop so that robots can cross without having to scale the rock wall or etc.

[Brandon3130]

One use could be to feed boulders to an offensive, shooter-only bot that started in the spy position. Te bot could also hold open the group C defense if need be.

[dirtbikerxz]

Originally Posted by Brandon3130

One use could be to feed boulders to an offensive, shooter-only bot that started in the spy position.

Remember you cant push boulders over the defenses, you actually have to pick it up and have control of it (max one at a time), before you can take it to the other side, or it will be a foul.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by dirtbikerxz

Remember you cant push boulders over the defenses, you actually have to pick it up and have control of it (max one at a time), before you can take it to the other side, or it will be a foul.

[Citation needed]

Take a good look at G40 again. Particularly the blue box, first section, B paragraph.



You can push them over, but you have to be in control of them all the way through and finish crossing yourself.

[dirtbikerxz]

Originally Posted by EricH

[Citation needed]

Take a good look at G40 again. Particularly the blue box, first section, B paragraph.



You can push them over, but you have to be in control of them all the way through and finish crossing yourself.

Ah yes i see that, didn't read it right the first time. But still basically the same concept ... almost .