FIRST STRONGHOLD Discussion

[Kevin Sevcik]

Originally Posted by evanperryg

My concern is that scouting data could easily be used to find which defense among the two a particular team is good/bad with. Here's a hypothetical situation: Team A has 19 QP, and is the first seed. Team B has 18 QP, and is the second seed. However, although they aren't terrible, Team A isn't better than anyone else in the top 8, and Team B would much rather be with someone else. Team A, understanding their situation, is willing to scorch to ensure a win in elims. Both teams have one match left in qualifications. Now, let's say that Team B is a big team, and they know that in team A's last match, the audience decides the Group A barriers; their scouts know Team A is good with the portcullis, but terrible with the Cheval de Frise. So, Team B leverages their size, outscreams everyone, and gets the Cheval in A's last match, thereby influencing the outcome of a match they aren't even in.

That's not a terribly likely scenario. The audience selection rules note that a selection is for an entire ROUND of matches, not a single match. So one audience selection is going to be good for 10-ish matches. And in your scenario, it will affect Team A and B, since the choice for the last round will be in effect for both their last matches.

Originally Posted by tindleroot

If a rule is stated in the game manual without mention of time period limitations, then the rule is active for the duration of the match, including autonomous. The only way to possibly make a 2 ball auto would be to take your preloaded ball through the Outer Works, score it, go back to the neutral zone, pick up a ball (without going over the center line), go back through the Outer Works again and score it.

Difficult? Yes.
Impossible? No.
Worth it? Maybe only at the highest levels of play.
Will teams do it? I wouldn't be surprised.

Alternate game plan: Start in the COURTYARD as SPY BOT. You'll have a straight shot at the goal, then you just have to get out, grab a boulder, and get back in for the second shot.

Originally Posted by Koko Ed

FIRST needs to come up with a cool name for the elite field setup crew who will be responsible for setting up the defenses.

Ed, I'm pretty sure castle designers/builders were called engineers. But maybe it's more glamorous if you say it with a Ye-Olde-English accent?