FIRST STRONGHOLD Discussion

[cglrcng]

Originally Posted by tindleroot

If a rule is stated in the game manual without mention of time period limitations, then the rule is active for the duration of the match, including autonomous. The only way to possibly make a 2 ball auto would be to take your preloaded ball through the Outer Works, score it, go back to the neutral zone, pick up a ball (without going over the center line), go back through the Outer Works again and score it.

Difficult? Yes.
Impossible? No.
Worth it? Maybe only at the highest levels of play.
Will teams do it? I wouldn't be surprised.

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Or....Choose to load the boulder into your robot, and choose to move it to the Spybot position (back left hand corner of field facing the driver station/castle wall and guard rail near Spy position box, robot must be contacting both the inner guardrail and the inner castle wall).

Start of auto period robot shoots boulder into high goal 10 points (or low goal 5 points), of Tower, then goes to collect another boulder in a variety of possible ways (though collecting one of those on the MIDLINE is a bit of a tricky thing to do in accordance with the rules and they are the only ones you can seek out at that point unless one of your alliance members just happens to bring theirs across the Defenses and properly expels it at the base of your bot and you pick it up and shoot it in a goal also, it is not impossible task), drives over any of 5 possible Defenses then shoots high or delivers low goal again. I'll bet (a small wager), before the 2016 season is out that someone actually does a 3 boulder Auto. Unless the rules don't actually allow it, since then it won't be attempted.

There are multiple ways a single bot or alliance working together can make the triple auto....and then some.

5 yrs. ago 987 and others were hanging 3 tubes, 4 yrs. ago 3 basketballs, 2 yrs. ago 254 and others 3 ball auto HOT goals....this is 2~5 yrs. of experience later. Today...Better hardware, better electronics, better vision sensing, better coding, same basic though a wee bit different mission....There will be success. You Can COUNT ON IT!

[Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik

.Ed, I'm pretty sure castle designers/builders were called engineers. But maybe it's more glamorous if you say it with a Ye-Olde-English accent?

I bet we could find something really cool in the Urban dictionary!

[cglrcng]

"Worth it? Maybe only at the highest levels of play."

You have 15 seconds of auto, and nothing is going to happen until the 15 second clock winds down. If you are capable of doing so, at any level of play. And your shot was a high goal scoring in 1~2 seconds. Why on earth would you want to just let your bot sit around for 13~14 seconds doing nothing?

Those that can DO, because they always play at the highest level.

[Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by cglrcng

"Worth it? Maybe only at the highest levels of play."

You have 15 seconds of auto, and nothing is going to happen until the 15 second clock winds down. If you are capable of doing so, at any level of play. And your shot was a high goal scoring in 1~2 seconds. Why on earth would you want to just let your bot sit around for 13~14 seconds doing nothing?

Those that can DO, because they always play at the highest level.

Average teams say it can't be done and accept their fate. The great teams will ask why and if they can't do it ask why not and figure out how to get it done.

[Richard Wallace]

Originally Posted by Koko Ed

I bet we could find something really cool in the Urban dictionary!

I think this year's term for all field volunteers is "stewards".

"Wranglers"* might be a good name for stewards who handle the tough tasks quickly and gracefully.

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*Cambridge University uses this term for its top-scoring math students.

[Foster]

Lords were responsible for management of the lands around a castle. A chamberlain ran the household.

Since the area we are talking about is outside the Stronghold, I suggest Lord.

All hail Lord Koko Ed!

[GaryVoshol]

Originally Posted by MasterEric

https://youtu.be/HsvsOI5jV-s?t=45s

Either through a bowling-style throw or pushing in a hole in the top (where it can only fall vertically).

The videos are not rules. In fact, that one has a line that directly contradicts a rule. I don't find anything in the rules that says what action a player has to use to enter a BOULDER through the EMBRASURE.

[GaryVoshol]

Originally Posted by Koko Ed

FIRST needs to come up with a cool name for the elite field setup crew who will be responsible for setting up the defenses.

The Defenders of the Realm.

[rich2202]

Originally Posted by Richard Wallace

I think this year's term for all field volunteers is "stewards"

Call the RI's "Sourcerers"?

[Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by Foster

Lords were responsible for management of the lands around a castle. A chamberlain ran the household.

Since the area we are talking about is outside the Stronghold, I suggest Lord.

All hail Lord Koko Ed!

Carry on.

[Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol

The Defenders of the Realm.

The Order.

[tindleroot]

Originally Posted by cglrcng

"Worth it? Maybe only at the highest levels of play."

You have 15 seconds of auto, and nothing is going to happen until the 15 second clock winds down. If you are capable of doing so, at any level of play. And your shot was a high goal scoring in 1~2 seconds. Why on earth would you want to just let your bot sit around for 13~14 seconds doing nothing?

Those that can DO, because they always play at the highest level.

This quote was to indicate that having a two-ball auto, while benefiting your score at any level of play, is not necessary at all during district/regional season since so few teams will probably be doing it. Resources could be better spent putting in some extra cycles, or perhaps breaching a new set of defenses. This will more actively help your score over time (assuming you score enough to make up for your single ball auto). A good team doesn't need a two ball auto to win a regional, therefore putting extended resources towards this at the cost of other features is not necessarily a good idea. At Einstein, or IRI, maybe a 2 ball auto will make the difference between closely matched alliances, though, and it will be necessary. The team has to decide for itself if the advantage is worth it and if they have the resources to make it work.

[Pearl3946]

Originally Posted by Ccody_

It's lit!

It truly is LIT! 🔥

[Toby Roy]

can anyone tell me how I post things on this website?

re: I mean like make a new post rather than just replying to one like on this board (Warning! I know nothing about thread sharing websites!)

[Richard Wallace]

Originally Posted by Toby Roy

can anyone tell me how I post things on this website?

Uh, you just did.

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