Stealing your opponents boulders

[bjtheone]

Originally Posted by KosmicKhaos

No necessarily, if you are not blocking the Secret passage and they have the ability to put a boulder into play and they end up with 7 balls that is there fault not yours. They would get a G34

However, if you are blocking the secret passage so that no matter what they do they end up with over 6 and cant get rid of any boulders because they are automatically redirected into their alliance station, you are putting them into an endless loop that no matter what they do, the end up with over 6 boulders and cant get rid of them, due to a strategy that essentially forces them to take penalties because they cant get rid of a ball. That's where it gets a little grey. Do you get a G11 for using a strategy that involves essentially forcing them to have over 6 boulders? Maybe. I'm unsure but its a possibility and should be asked don the Q&A

But you are not blocking the BRATTICE, so they can happily introduce BOULDERS back onto the field so you are not forcing a foul. Not your fault they are feeding balls to you. Unfortunately as long as you can shoot them fast enough such that they cannot get two boulders on the robot, they are mostly hooped.

As long as you are not touching the carpet in the SP you don't run the risk of violating G21 or G39.

Only issue is with how you block the EMBRASURE. If they can get BOULDERS onto the field touching your robot you could end up in violation, via "trapping", of G38.

I would like to see G38 clarified before building a robot around this strategy.

[T3_1565]

Originally Posted by bjtheone

Not your fault they are feeding balls to you.

It's 100% your fault they are feeding balls to you that's kinda the point right?

That being said. All they need to do it throw a ball out of both EMBRASURE at once and you would get a foul for controlling multiple boulders!

[bjtheone]

Originally Posted by T3_1565

It's 100% your fault they are feeding balls to you that's kinda the point right?

That being said. All they need to do it throw a ball out of both EMBRASURE at once and you would get a foul for controlling multiple boulders!

Poorly phrased... "The fact that the requirement to put balls back into play results in them feeding you, does not mean you are forcing a fault", thus you don't trigger G11.

G38 needs clarification. If a ball ends up between you and the EMBRASURE due to your position relative to the EMBRASURE, is this "trapping" or "herding". You are not holding the BOULDER against a FIELD ELEMENT. They specifically state that "deflecting" is not "control".