[FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Navid Shafa

I'm not recalling how this was done in 2014 and prior. Would that be W-L-T points plus additional rank points starting at 16 for 1st seed and down to 1 point for the 16th seed? Is this what you are referring to as Standard rank below?

It is what I'm referring to as Standard rank. From the posted rules:
1st seed, 20 points
2nd-3rd seed, 12 points
4th-8th seed, 6 points
9th-12th seed, 3 points
13th-16th seed, 2 points

Subject to change based on the game given, naturally.

Since we have the table on the last sheet here from last season, this should be easy enough for us to use while working on automated FF scoring via the API for this year. Without ease of calculation being an issue, I am strongly against most options, save for 3.

Trying to use W-L-T as a stand-alone is a poor metric, because most teams may be designing strategies that net them a higher average RP, but net them a lower match score. Trying to use RP is a little better, but it creates an inflation of ranking points (relative to award and elimination points). This inflation may adversely affect Fantasy teams that made databases/picks based on a certain weighting of on-field performance.

The fact that District Ranking is normalized and is comparable between events has me leaning this route. Trying to add additional rank points to the district ranking defeats the purpose of normalization IMO.

Just as a thought, the defenses may adversely affect real FRC teams that developed offseason drivetrains based on a certain assumption of field terrain.

The main reason we went to the district ranking in the first place is because FIRST wasn't tracking W-L-T, so we had no way to calculate that. District rank only affects district advancement, which was also the case last year, but we have W-L-T back this year. Remember, we're scoring at events, NOT between them. FIRST doesn't normalize between events. (Except for the district ranking.)

The only two times we HAVEN'T used straight W-L-T were 2012 (the bridges were added in) and 2015 (no W-L-T to count). In all other years, it's been W-L-T + rank. That's a big part of why I favor the options without the district ranking--this is, after all, a Traditional league, though being the only league kind of led to that tag being dropped.


How about using Option 4? Keep the W-L-T, but swap out the rank bonus points for the district ranking, which gives all the teams points. If we really wanted to, we could assign a negative value to the losses.

Who got lucky?

Swamp Life, for 2526.