Go to Post I don't hate many things, but time-wasting and false dilemmas are amongst the few. - Manoel [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > Technical > Technical Discussion
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Closed Thread
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 12-01-2016, 01:19
Jay Burnett Jay Burnett is offline
Registered User
FRC #5332 (Toaster Tech)
Team Role: Leadership
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Rookie Year: 2009
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 56
Jay Burnett is an unknown quantity at this point
What is the best center drop distance for an 8WD?

Hi CD,

My team is strongly considering using an 8wd this year, and we know that we need to drop the inner wheels some amount. We'd like to know what drop distance has worked the best in the past.

For reference, we plan on using 6 in or 5 in Colson wheels that are 2in wide.

Thanks!
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 12-01-2016, 01:22
snoman's Avatar
snoman snoman is offline
Registered User
FRC #3275 (Accelerators 3134 & Regulators 3275)
Team Role: Coach
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Rookie Year: 2012
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 371
snoman is a splendid one to beholdsnoman is a splendid one to beholdsnoman is a splendid one to beholdsnoman is a splendid one to beholdsnoman is a splendid one to beholdsnoman is a splendid one to beholdsnoman is a splendid one to behold
Re: What is the best center drop distance for an 8WD?

On 6wd .150 is standard I believe
__________________
Coach of the Cass Lake Bena Regulators 3275 (Boys)and mentor Accelerators 3134(Girls)
https://www.facebook.com/accerleratorsandregulators/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQU...Cr8I4wezAbMefA
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 12-01-2016, 04:13
carpedav000's Avatar
carpedav000 carpedav000 is offline
Studenting is hard, but worth it!
AKA: David Carpenter
no team (Jerry-Rigg school of DuctTapeology)
Team Role: Mechanical
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Rookie Year: 2010
Location: Greenwood, IN
Posts: 475
carpedav000 has a brilliant futurecarpedav000 has a brilliant futurecarpedav000 has a brilliant futurecarpedav000 has a brilliant futurecarpedav000 has a brilliant futurecarpedav000 has a brilliant futurecarpedav000 has a brilliant futurecarpedav000 has a brilliant futurecarpedav000 has a brilliant futurecarpedav000 has a brilliant futurecarpedav000 has a brilliant future
Re: What is the best center drop distance for an 8WD?

I usually design 8wd with a 1/8" center drop.
__________________
It isn't shiny enough.
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 12-01-2016, 06:38
Coach Seb's Avatar
Coach Seb Coach Seb is offline
Registered User
AKA: Sebastien Cournoyer
FRC #5860 (Full Metal Muskrats)
Team Role: Coach
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Rookie Year: 2015
Location: Algonac, MI
Posts: 109
Coach Seb is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: What is the best center drop distance for an 8WD?

I see the drop subject popping out quite bit this morning, are you actually making the center wheel lower than the ends one or higher where they don't actually touch the ground on a plane level?
  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 12-01-2016, 08:12
Jay Burnett Jay Burnett is offline
Registered User
FRC #5332 (Toaster Tech)
Team Role: Leadership
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Rookie Year: 2009
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 56
Jay Burnett is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: What is the best center drop distance for an 8WD?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach Seb View Post
I see the drop subject popping out quite bit this morning, are you actually making the center wheel lower than the ends one or higher where they don't actually touch the ground on a plane level?
I'm not exactly sure what the difference between those two options are. Could you explain?
  #6   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 12-01-2016, 08:24
FrankJ's Avatar
FrankJ FrankJ is offline
Robot Mentor
FRC #2974 (WALT)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Rookie Year: 2009
Location: Marietta GA
Posts: 1,933
FrankJ has a reputation beyond reputeFrankJ has a reputation beyond reputeFrankJ has a reputation beyond reputeFrankJ has a reputation beyond reputeFrankJ has a reputation beyond reputeFrankJ has a reputation beyond reputeFrankJ has a reputation beyond reputeFrankJ has a reputation beyond reputeFrankJ has a reputation beyond reputeFrankJ has a reputation beyond reputeFrankJ has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What is the best center drop distance for an 8WD?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Burnett View Post
I'm not exactly sure what the difference between those two options are. Could you explain?
Having th e center wheels closer to the ground shortens the effective wheel base. You want the center wheels closer to the ground to make turning easier.
__________________
If you don't know what you should hook up then you should read a data sheet
  #7   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 12-01-2016, 09:19
sdcantrell56's Avatar
sdcantrell56 sdcantrell56 is offline
Registered User
AKA: Sean
FRC #2415 (Wired Cats)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Rookie Year: 2004
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 1,038
sdcantrell56 has a reputation beyond reputesdcantrell56 has a reputation beyond reputesdcantrell56 has a reputation beyond reputesdcantrell56 has a reputation beyond reputesdcantrell56 has a reputation beyond reputesdcantrell56 has a reputation beyond reputesdcantrell56 has a reputation beyond reputesdcantrell56 has a reputation beyond reputesdcantrell56 has a reputation beyond reputesdcantrell56 has a reputation beyond reputesdcantrell56 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What is the best center drop distance for an 8WD?

Something else to consider is the spacing of the wheels horizontally. Most teams do not run the spacing equal between all the wheels.
__________________

Mentor 2415
  #8   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 15-01-2016, 10:07
LordTonyStark's Avatar
LordTonyStark LordTonyStark is offline
Co-Head Programmer/Wiring Captain
AKA: Thomas James
FRC #2929 (Jagbots)
Team Role: Programmer
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Rookie Year: 2014
Location: Puyallup
Posts: 2
LordTonyStark is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: What is the best center drop distance for an 8WD?

Our team is going to try to build an 8wd today, does anyone know the best way to fit 2 6" wheels and 2 4" wheels on each side? Does anyone have any photos of any 8wd on the chassis kit included with KoP? Thx
  #9   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 15-01-2016, 11:27
Joe Johnson's Avatar Unsung FIRST Hero
Joe Johnson Joe Johnson is offline
Engineer at Medrobotics
AKA: Dr. Joe
FRC #0088 (TJ2)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: May 2001
Rookie Year: 1996
Location: Raynham, MA
Posts: 2,648
Joe Johnson has a reputation beyond reputeJoe Johnson has a reputation beyond reputeJoe Johnson has a reputation beyond reputeJoe Johnson has a reputation beyond reputeJoe Johnson has a reputation beyond reputeJoe Johnson has a reputation beyond reputeJoe Johnson has a reputation beyond reputeJoe Johnson has a reputation beyond reputeJoe Johnson has a reputation beyond reputeJoe Johnson has a reputation beyond reputeJoe Johnson has a reputation beyond repute
Re: What is the best center drop distance for an 8WD?

Quote:
Originally Posted by LordTonyStark View Post
Our team is going to try to build an 8wd today, does anyone know the best way to fit 2 6" wheels and 2 4" wheels on each side? Does anyone have any photos of any 8wd on the chassis kit included with KoP? Thx
Don't forget that you need different gear or sprocket sizes. If the wheels are in the ratio 4/6 then the ratios to those wheels has to follow the same ratio of 4/6.

If you have a 15:1 ratio from the motor to the 6" wheel you will need a 10:1 ratio from the motor to the 4" wheel.

Good luck.

Joe J.
__________________
Joseph M. Johnson, Ph.D., P.E.
Mentor
Team #88, TJ2
Closed Thread


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:09.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi