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Re: Some questions on the legality of Wifi

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In my years working with field setup and the FTA's on Thursday and Wednesday night, we will often have a end of night wifi hunt, where we track down the rogue wifi hotspots in the pits and shut them down.
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In my years working with field setup and the FTA's on Thursday and Wednesday night, we will often have a end of night wifi hunt, where we track down the rogue wifi hotspots in the pits and shut them down.
So you go war driving for rogue access points prior to Stronghold?
This is very militaristic

I really still think it would benefit FIRST to put someone in charge of getting Internet to the events rather than have people doing all sorts of strange things to get an advantage.

Hey I have a silly question - would FIRST have an issue if a venue hosting a district event offered wired Internet in the pits?

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Re: Some questions on the legality of Wifi

2959 did get permission to setup a venue wide hotspot last year (hopefully this year as well). To do that though we had a lot of restrictions and we had a network engineer manning it to make sure the signals didn't interfere with each other. So you might get permission provided you can bring $20,000 worth of equipment and a certified network engineer.

And even then the equipment was overwhelmed and was only so so. If we get the opportunity again this year we are bringing more antennas.
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Re: Some questions on the legality of Wifi

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So you go war driving for rogue access points prior to Stronghold?
This is very militaristic

I really still think it would benefit FIRST to put someone in charge of getting Internet to the events rather than have people doing all sorts of strange things to get an advantage.

Hey I have a silly question - would FIRST have an issue if a venue hosting a district event offered wired Internet in the pits?
It would be difficult working around 4.13 Site Restrictions, bullet 5.

Do not arrange for Internet access or phone lines from venue service providers or attempt to use venue internet connections reserved for event purposes (e.g., FMS or streaming).
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Re: Some questions on the legality of Wifi

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It would be difficult working around 4.13 Site Restrictions, bullet 5.

Do not arrange for Internet access or phone lines from venue service providers or attempt to use venue internet connections reserved for event purposes (e.g., FMS or streaming).
Look at that a different way - it restricts the teams from arranging for Internet access or phone lines. It does not restrict the -venue- from providing said Internet.

Also it wouldn't be WiFi. It would wired. So all one needs is a box of CAT5 and enough switches/switch ports assuming the venue provides an Internet connection.

I am pretty sure I am a tad over-qualified to install a campus wired network
If not there are a few: colleges, ISP and financial institutions around here that wouldn't be working.

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Re: Some questions on the legality of Wifi

Our programmers are currently looking at periodically using NFC to sync data between our tablets and a master tablet. The master tablet would then have a Roam Mobility plan to get the data back to the cloud:

https://www.roammobility.com/
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