The Triple Tortuga is Contest born.

[Mr. B]

I think the Triple Tortuga is likely even with teams practicing on the home made (wood vs metal) field elements.

[rzoeller]

Originally Posted by Mr. B

I think the Triple Tortuga is likely even with teams practicing on the home made (wood vs metal) field elements.

I think equally important as the different materials are the different dimensions. Take a look at the team rough terrain drawings and the official ones to see what I mean. It's possible to build the official ones, but ripping 4x4 lumber does not particularly appeal to me.

EDIT: The 1.5" spacing on the official rough terrain will be interesting for teams not using treads or pneumatic wheels (do these teams exist?)

[GaryVoshol]

Originally Posted by Jack Gillespie

I just thought you were related to Yoda

He's not [quite] that old!

If it's any consolation Joe, I didn't see anything wrong with the title until you pointed it out. We just see what we expect to see.

[bEdhEd]

Am I not turtle-y enough for the turtle club?

[evanperryg]

Originally Posted by IronicDeadBird

I like the idea that one guy turtles and another guy goes to help and ALSO turtles, and then the final alliance members turtles all on the same object.

How would they all fit? I want to see a (double) stacked, one-defense, triple tortuga. That'd be interesting.

[Daniel_LaFleur]

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol

He's not [quite] that old!

Old enough, he is NOT!
Wise enough, He IS.

[Hoover]

(By 'stuck on their opponent defenses' I am assuming that a Tortuga means they are stuck, as in jammed, in the Outer Works itself)

While a Triple Tortuga would be amusing I am thinking some Tortuga-ed robots could be pushed through their predicament. On that note I am looking to a situation where all three robots are stuck behind the Outer Works.

Examples:

Assuming robot(s) cannot breach any Outer Works not blocked by other stuck robots and are too tall (greater than 1 foot 4 inches) to get under the low bar

Two Tortuga and the third which hasn't the power nor the ability to assist can score no more points for their alliance

One Tortuga and two others which cannot breach

(Rare?) All three robots on the alliance are free but cannot breach any Outer Works obstacles

[droswell]

Originally Posted by IronicDeadBird

I like the idea that one guy turtles and another guy goes to help and ALSO turtles, and then the final alliance members turtles all on the same object.

Reminds me of this:
https://www.google.com/search?q=bigg...XWSL5l5KcQM%3A

[Joe Johnson]

There have been a few legal eagles asking for the definition of what it means to be "tortugaed*"

It is a little like art, in that we'll know it when we see it, but a good working definition is that a robot is tortugaed when it stuck or disabled while attempting to traverse or helping another robot traverse a defense. Stuck should be broadly interpreted.

Some examples:

if you flip over crossing the Chapel of Frost and you're technically not in the defense zone anymore but everyone knows that it was the defense that done you in. Of course, we're going to give you a tortuga for that.

If the Drawbridge thwaps your battery from its cradle and the field officials don't disable you until they see you dragging that 17AmpHours Anchor around the courtyard, again, you've been tortugaed my friend.

If your alliance partner gets stuck on the rock wall and you go over to try to give them a bump to save them only to have their flailing Sally Port arm reach into your robot and, horrors, turn off your main breaker, why, that's a tortuga for two right there!!!

If you are holding open the Sally Port and an alliance robot goes insane, pushes you against that very door after which their motors start smoking and they hit their e-stop and you spend the rest of the match unsuccessfully trying to get out from the pin they've put you in. Again, two tortugas will be awarded.

I hope this clears things up, even as it maddens the legalist in the FRC world.

Cheers,
Dr. Joe J.

*Yes, it's a verb now.

[Billfred]

Originally Posted by Clinton Bolinger

Week 1 Event - 6 vs 0

Both Alliances go out for $50 worth of coffee after the match.

-Clinton

Why wait for Week 1? There's a Starbucks in Myrtle Beach...

Edited to add: 4901 wouldn't partake in this, of course--we're planning to handle our business.

[Anupam Goli]

Originally Posted by rzoeller

EDIT: The 1.5" spacing on the official rough terrain will be interesting for teams not using treads or pneumatic wheels (do these teams exist?)

Yes, they do.

[marshall]

Originally Posted by Billfred

Why wait for Week 1? There's a Starbucks in Myrtle Beach...

Edited to add: 4901 wouldn't partake in this, of course--we're planning to handle our business.

I for one look forward to drowning my robot sorrows with caffeine after we get stuck.

[Sperkowsky]

Good thing we signed up for the suffield shakedown. Should I eat the card for taking my phone out during a match I mean c'mon it's 10 bucks.

[jman4747]

Originally Posted by rzoeller

I think equally important as the different materials are the different dimensions. Take a look at the team rough terrain drawings and the official ones to see what I mean. It's possible to build the official ones, but ripping 4x4 lumber does not particularly appeal to me.

EDIT: The 1.5" spacing on the official rough terrain will be interesting for teams not using treads or pneumatic wheels (do these teams exist?)

Yes they do. The real question is how many teams exist who won't pay attention to how their wheels first make contact with a defense or under what circumstances their robot would bottom out. I guarantee there will be stuck robots with pneumatic wheels several times this year. Tank treads not so much but flipping over is still an option. If you use wheels, pneumatic or hard, the spacing matters. Pneumatic wheels does not equal automatic victory.

[MooreteP]

One down, two to go.

Prototype Tortuga

I'm thinking a Venti Iced Skinny Hazelnut Macchiato, Sugar-Free Syrup, Extra Shot, Light Ice, No Whip.