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View Poll Results: What defenses can you (or expect to) transverse? (Without help)
Low Bar 246 89.13%
Portcullis (drop down gate) 217 78.62%
Cheval de Frise (seesaw thing) 234 84.78%
Ramparts (opposing fixed ramps) 265 96.01%
Moat 264 95.65%
Drawbridge 118 42.75%
Sally Port (side swing door) 109 39.49%
Rock Wall 262 94.93%
Rough Terrain 266 96.38%
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Yo wut? Sally port doing so poorly...
I'm unsurprised by this. In our strategic analysis, we determined that there are 3 obstacles that can obviously be reliably crossed by the KOP drive train with no other additions:
1. The low bar
2. The Sally Port (ONLY from the courtyard)
3. The Drawbridge (ONLY from the courtyard)

With just a drive train you can drive through these obstacles from the courtyard to the neutral zone (Low Bar can conceivably be done in either direction). In order to cross them for points in the opposite direction alone, there is A LOT of investment of resources. And if you think creatively about a way to generate points by crossing it in a fashion that does not require the investment of all those resources, you can see why many teams would opt to not manipulate those defenses. Hint: you have partners.
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I'm unsurprised by this. In our strategic analysis, we determined that there are 3 obstacles that can obviously be reliably crossed by the KOP drive train with no other additions:
1. The low bar
2. The Sally Port (ONLY from the courtyard)
3. The Drawbridge (ONLY from the courtyard)

With just a drive train you can drive through these obstacles from the courtyard to the neutral zone (Low Bar can conceivably be done in either direction). In order to cross them for points in the opposite direction alone, there is A LOT of investment of resources. And if you think creatively about a way to generate points by crossing it in a fashion that does not require the investment of all those resources, you can see why many teams would opt to not manipulate those defenses. Hint: you have partners.
Yeah but the poll doesn't specify scoring its just what can you cross. It doesn't specify which side you cross either so maybe I'm just reading this question wrong.
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Yeah but the poll doesn't specify scoring its just what can you cross. It doesn't specify which side you cross either so maybe I'm just reading this question wrong.
Well, I would imagine that any robot could drive through the sally port or drawbridge in the reverse direction.

I suspect a common move in each game will be - one robot scoots under the low bar to get to the other side, pushes open the sally port door or drawbridge, lets another (or two) robots through, and call it a day. They may even be ignored completely if the other 4 defenses are easier to breach.
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Well, I would imagine that any robot could drive through the sally port or drawbridge in the reverse direction.

I suspect a common move in each game will be - one robot scoots under the low bar to get to the other side, pushes open the sally port door or drawbridge, lets another (or two) robots through, and call it a day. They may even be ignored completely if the other 4 defenses are easier to breach.
Even easier if the first robot is the spybot.
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Re: Defense Poll

No surprises here... However, the real question is: How many will actually be able to reliably cross those defenses come week one? How many of those that think they'll be cruising across the moat will find themselves in a rather embarrassing tortuga? Who will be the first to be high-centered by the rock wall? Whose will get their traction wheels inextricably wedged in the rough terrain? How long until the portcullis comes down between two sections of a robot, pinning it mercilessly? Will somebody forget to lower a manipulator before blasting under the low bar - only to be turned into a convertible? And, pity the poor soul who attempts to cross the cheval de frise with mecanum wheels and no manipulator...

I just hope it's not us....
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