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View Poll Results: How many times are necessary to determine consistency?
Defenses: 1-3 1 1.35%
Defenses: 4-6 14 18.92%
Defenses: 7-10 18 24.32%
Defenses: 11-20 18 24.32%
Defenses: All 27 36.49%
Climbing: 1-3 4 5.41%
Climbing: 4-8 27 36.49%
Climbing: All 33 44.59%
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Re: How many times is enough to prove consistency?

Another important consideration is when failures occur, since teams often improve over the event. I'd feel better picking a team with 5 failures in their first couple of matches and none later in the event than a team with 3 failures in matches 3, 9 and 10.
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Re: How many times is enough to prove consistency?

Once is luck; three times is a trend. However, to accomplish a task without human error is consistency.

Since this is a game involving humans, there is no true measure of consistency.
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Re: How many times is enough to prove consistency?

If they try and fail, that shows inconsistency. If they do not try at all some matches, but succeed in others, that shows consistency.
I think a scout can look for how "naturally" they vault the defenses to determine consistency with only a few trials rather than depend on pure numbers (although those are important as well).
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Re: How many times is enough to prove consistency?

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Once is luck; three times is a trend. However, to accomplish a task without human error is consistency.

Since this is a game involving humans, there is no true measure of consistency.
While you present a great theory, scouting depends on some sort of measurement. I am trying to consider a good compromise in order to minimize data accumulated and still determine consistency to a predictable degree. For me, if I saw a robot cross 5 times successfully, I would trust them to continue doing it (as long as those 5 crosses were not among a sea of failures, and the trend does not change sporadically throughout the competition). Hanging, I would want to make sure they make it every time.

Honestly, I don't expect teams to be particularly inconsistent with the defenses they are intending to cross. Either they will cross or they won't. But now that I say that, the opposite will probably happen.
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Re: How many times is enough to prove consistency?

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While you present a great theory, scouting depends on some sort of measurement. I am trying to consider a good compromise in order to minimize data accumulated and still determine consistency to a predictable degree. For me, if I saw a robot cross 5 times successfully, I would trust them to continue doing it (as long as those 5 crosses were not among a sea of failures, and the trend does not change sporadically throughout the competition). Hanging, I would want to make sure they make it every time.

Honestly, I don't expect teams to be particularly inconsistent with the defenses they are intending to cross. Either they will cross or they won't. But now that I say that, the opposite will probably happen.
Five times is great. But most events have 7-10 rounds. Did your team accomplish this task 5 times out of 7, or 10? Did they do this within traffic, or did this do this with impunity?

Consistency is great - but your scouting better be ready to address the other issues involved or the better scouting from another alliance may beat you.
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