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Where will you go during autonomous?

Hello everyone. I got thinking a bit the other night, about autonomous, and where our robot will go, what it will do, etc. It made me wonder, where will the other two robots be when we're doing our autonomous? Is everyone going under the low bar, or ending up right in front of the middle of the castle? What sort of common robot positions should we "play around" when planning our own autonomous?

So I'll get the ball(boulder?) rolling. We have 2 autonomous options.

1. Start in front of the low bar, drive under it, shoot a low goal. Begin teleop somewhere near the left batter. We would only stay on the left side of the field.

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2. Cross a category B/D defense. End near the edge of that defense, in the opponent's courtyard. We would stay very close to the edge of the outerworks the whole time.

So feel free to post whatever information you want to about where your robot will go during auto, where it will end, etc. I just figured this might be useful stuff for everyone to know when they consider their auto options, and whether they may hit other bots.
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Unread 29-01-2016, 07:46
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Re: Where will you go during autonomous?

Forward, probably.

We're actually planning on developing a number of different autonomous routines, to be as flexible as possible with regard to position and defenses.

Of course, where we're planning to go and where we actually go are rarely ever the same (at first anyway.)
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Re: Where will you go during autonomous?

We're planning for our primary auto to be cross a passive defense (not necessarily the low bar) and shoot a high goal.

Stretch goal is to do any of the three roles to defeat the drawbridge or sally port during auto:
  • As spybot, drive 3/4 across the defense, wait 2 seconds, back out and clear the defense, shoot high, (optional) drive to the low bar, cross twice.
  • Wait 2 seconds, drive to 1/4 on platform, wait 1 second, advance the length of the robot, wait 2 seconds, clear the defense and shoot high.
  • Wait 4 seconds, advance to 1/4 on platform, wait 2 seconds, clear the defense and shoot high.
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Re: Where will you go during autonomous?

We are also likely to have multiple autonomous routines... Our programmers completely confident that we'll be able to have enough "go through and score a boulder" routines that we'll be okay with any defensive configuration and group of alliance partners.... They are also working on developing a far more interesting autonomous routine that won't likely have as much flexibility - and that will present a really good challenge.

Of course all of that will be for naught if we don't get them the robot soon...
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Re: Where will you go during autonomous?

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As spybot, drive 3/4 across the defense, wait 2 seconds, back out and clear the defense, shoot high, (optional) drive to the low bar, cross twice.

I'm pretty sure you won't get any points for "crossing twice", see the top of page 31 of the game manual. Once you've crossed any defense in auto, crossing any other times doesn't earn any other points or weaken any other defenses.

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Re: Where will you go during autonomous?

Right now we're looking at one autonomous routine which will handle 5 of the 9 defenses, in 3 categories.
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Re: Where will you go during autonomous?

I predict that most of the best teams will end autonomous in the neutral zone.
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Re: Where will you go during autonomous?

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I predict that most of the best teams will end autonomous in the neutral zone.
Will you still get the auto points for crossing a defense if you end the auto period in the neutral zone? Are the points "assessed" once your robot clears the defense, and they stay even if you return to the neutral zone?
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I'm pretty sure you won't get any points for "crossing twice", see the top of page 31 of the game manual. Once you've crossed any defense in auto, crossing any other times doesn't earn any other points or weaken any other defenses.
Sorry that wasn't clear: twice means once going from the courtyard to the neutral zone (non-scoring) and once going back into the courtyard (scoring). I should have said traverse it twice.
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Re: Where will you go during autonomous?

We are probably going to cross a defense (any one we can to be flexible) and shoot a high goal. If we make it, yay!, if we don't, we can pick it up in tele-op and shoot again. Vision definetly
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I predict most teams will end autonomous in the neutral zone- whether that's intentional or not!
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Re: Where will you go during autonomous?

I'm hoping for a repeat of our Rookie Recycle Rush first practice match where we mistakenly programmed in 15 seconds of full speed into autonomous and proceeded to launch off the scoring platform and lay waste to the landfill. And the carpet. Totes everywhere!
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We plan to go to Standish and West Michigan for our autonomous. If it works out, we might go to Michigan State Championship with it.
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Re: Where will you go during autonomous?

Were planning on having upwards of 20 different auto routines we can cycle through on the fly. They will allow us to tackle category A and B along with the lowbar and spybot. From there we can choose which of the 2 low goals we are aiming for.

This will hopefully allow us to never have to worry about if our partners need a certain category of defense, or worry about what goals they're going for.
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Re: Where will you go during autonomous?

We're planning on the old auto standby of spinning in place. It's a oldie but a goodie.
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