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Re: pic: Are these legal?

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Is it illegal to modify the connectors ie shave off the inside tab.
I thought R66 would make this illegal but after rereading it I'm not sure that it does. This should be something that you Q&A.


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Re: pic: Are these legal?

We also looked into using green SB50 connectors last year, but ditched the idea as soon as we realized each color was keyed differently. Not worth giving up compatibility with every other team in case you need to borrow/lend batteries at competition.
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Are you asking if the blue Anderson connector is legal to use on your robot?

There are a lot of things in the picture... i dont think you would pass inspection with that laptop on your robot. But that waygo should be okay.
Nitpick: actually such a laptop would be legal if it were powered off a DC-DC converter and the battery removed as it is a COTS computing device. Obviously overkill, but perfectly legal by itself.
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the battery removed as it is a COTS computing device.
The battery can stay if it's integral to the device.
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*The pink is a special case where Anderson produced pink versions using the Red mold because they had to much of the pink plastic and wanted to use it for the donation.
That's neat, anywhere I can read more?
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That's neat, anywhere I can read more?
Not that I know of, that is just what I heard from people at FIRST when I asked about it.
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Re: pic: Are these legal?

The batteries should not include the connectors, because the batteries come without them (Source). So that should be legal, at least concerning R66.
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The color "blue" has been trademarked by teams 254, 341 and 1086 and is therefore not a legal color for other FRC robots, parts, or teams. Unfortunately you can expect legal action if you or your team use anything "blue". I would recommend against it.
So anyone who winds up on the blue alliance is screwed?
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The color "blue" has been trademarked by teams 254, 341 and 1086 and is therefore not a legal color for other FRC robots, parts, or teams. Unfortunately you can expect legal action if you or your team use anything "blue". I would recommend against it.
i think you need an update explaining what "exactly" this trademark is going be used for
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The battery can stay if it's integral to the device.
..and this is why I'm not an RI. Whoops!
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i think you need an update explaining what "exactly" this trademark is going be used for
All things "blue" are their sole property. I would recommend not wearing "blue jeans" or listening to "blues" music while in the pits, for instance. Also I understand this is where all the blue BaneBots wheels have disappeared to over the last couple of years.
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All things "blue" are their sole property. I would recommend not wearing "blue jeans" or listening to "blues" music while in the pits, for instance. Also I understand this is where all the blue BaneBots wheels have disappeared to over the last couple of years.
FRC234 loudly objects.





For those that don't get it, that would be team Cyber Blue.
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For those that don't get it, that would be team Cyber Blue.
I've edited the original post on the trademark "blue", per your reminder. I'd forgotten to list these original partners. Thanks, EricH! I'm sure I would have faced litigation myself soon.
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Nitpick: actually such a laptop would be legal if it were powered off a DC-DC converter and the battery removed as it is a COTS computing device. Obviously overkill, but perfectly legal by itself.
Please see R31...
In part it reads:
"Additionally, batteries integral to and part of a COTS computing device or self-contained camera are also permitted (e.g. laptop batteries, GoPro style camera, etc.),"

As to modifying the SB50/120 connectors, the intent of R66 is to prevent teams from modifying electrical items in such a way that would cause a safety issue. Removing anything from a high current electrical connector may affect the safe use of such an item. R9 is also a little more pertinent to this question. The SB connectors are tested by UL for specified current and voltage without parts removed.
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