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Re: Broke down in the secret passage

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A disabled robot in the other alliance's secret passage can materially affect the other alliance's ability to score.

What if you intentionally e-stopped your robot in the other team's secret passage in order to inhibit their ability to inbound boulders?

Seems to me that if you become disabled (or e-stopped) in the other Alliance's Secret Passage, it could be deemed a forfeit of the game. The game would continue for Ranking Points (capture, breaches). Unfortunately, it would still affect the 4th tie breaker: cumulative goal points (5th tie breaker for eliminations).

This is why I think the question is more complicated than a couple of fouls... Could you imagine if, in Einstein Finals, a robot e-stopped in the opponent's secret passage, accepting 50 points in tech fouls, knowing it would cost them far more than that in scoring? Ouch. It is also brutal to call a forfeit because a robot broke down at an inconvenient moment.... It could be a spot where there is not any good answer at all - and we will all just have to go with whatever the GDC decides and hope it never actually happens.
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Re: Broke down in the secret passage

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It is also brutal to call a forfeit because a robot broke down at an inconvenient moment....
Think of it as one of the many dangers of being in the team's secret passage.

The one exception being: Team lost control of the robot, it ran across the field, hit the wall, and the team e-stopped it. Then, I could see some leniency, but what? It is still keeping the other alliance from scoring. At least a forfeit could stop the alliance from racking up foul points (the disabled robot no longer can receive foul points).

Another possibility: The first contact with the disabled robot is the normal penalty (foul). Once that happens, the other alliance is award 5 goal points for every 5 seconds (or portion thereof) remaining in the game.

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