[YMTC]: Defending the Defenses

[New Lightning]

Originally Posted by JesseK

Just going to throw this one out there - if they're typical FRC bots made of aluminum tubing then both of these robots will be damaged by this act. Even if neither robot is incapacitated, they will both be damaged. It's too much kinetic energy.


Red gets hit with [G24], YELLOW CARD. Presuming Blueabot1 didn't move after getting into position, Blueabot1 didn't initiate the damaging contact. Redabot1 didn't intend the damage, but it is damage nonetheless.

If red remains on blue for the remainder of the match:

• Blueabot1 gets hit with a [G22] penalty every 5 seconds for the remainder of the match, leading to a RED CARD. Both robots being E-stopped may affect this. If there is a safety hazard imposed by either robot (smoke, battery acid, pneumatic tank puncture, etc) then there is no penalty.

Why would Blue get hit with the pinning penalty when Redabot 1 landed on top of blue and is preventing it from moving by damaging it. If any pinning foul is to be given here than it should go to red. However I will take precedent from the 2014 game. Specifically a match that happen in Colorado in SF 2-1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQdVzEqjz7E . In this match A blue robot was pushed into a red bot by another red bot. If you watch the referees right next to the incident the ref calls for a pinning foul, and then the head ref comes over and also signals for a foul. At the end of the match however the foul points are taken off the board.

The relation to the topic at hand would be that in the video the foul was initially called on the blue robot because it was inside the red robot and was causing the red robot to be immobile. But the end result was no foul because blue was pushed into the pin. For the scenario at hand I would say that because blue was didn't avoid the contact then red is not responsible for a pin because they didn't prevent blue from getting out of their way and were "forced" into hitting blue, which ultimately caused the pin. However red should probably be given the G24 for damaging blue.