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What.. animation disqualified!!!

dunno why, but my team's animation got disqualified, probally due to like 0.0000000000002 sec freaken longer than what it supposed to be. Anyone else got disqualified.. tell me 'cause it'll make me feel better
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I know a lot of animation were dq'd because they did not hold a still frame for 10 sec, some did 2 frames, which is against the rules.
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You may have used some music in it that was copyrighted... but they should have called your team up telling you why, and if it was fixable.
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Frankly there probably wasnt any time for resubmitance. However- I know that In the North East Conf- There was one animation played on a seperate tape "because it was a late submission" Was how it was explained to us. I didnt say anything because Autodesk messed up so many other things that I didnt want a team to have to suffer. If you were DQ'd for the Stillframe issue, music Issues, or length issues- then so be it. These were all in the rules. Did you submit a filled out entry form and submit story boards? These are all called for in the rules as well.

BTW- last year i recieved the review of scoring from the judges (you know the comments you can request from autodesk- I dont know how they will handle this this year) One Judge marked that the story boards were not submitted, but I know for a fact that they were. And none of the other 6 or 8 or however many judges seemed to have that comment- so who knows what they did with them.

I'd contact that autodesk email address firstentries@autodesk.com (I think) And ask them point blank, "What was the problem?"


PS: when you do a 30 sec commercial for TV- You can't be .0000000000000002 sec over! its always better to be slightly under. But I doubt that was the cause of any DQ.

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well, the people down at first were unsure of which regional our animation was going to- we put midwest regional, and the lady on the other end of the phone asked us, "yes, but which regional in the midwest..." kind of makes you wonder if there are enough people to take care of all the teams and submissions nowadays.

on a related note, team 71's chairman's award was dqed by a FIRST error, they lost our Executive summary, which we have on tape going into the envelope. again- makes you wonder.... i'm going to go cry again. (cowriter of the thing, and we worked soooo hard on that.)
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I heard something about sound being disabled at the UCF regional competition for animations. That must have sucked.
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Nah, sound was at UCF regional...I was there and judged. That's when I got first news of my own DQ. No one would tell me why until one week later at the midwest regional (the one I DIDN'T submit to...) where I found that my animaiton was DQ'd for both an unreadable disk and copyrighted music.

Now the question lingers...how do you DQ an unreadable disk for illegal audio....
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Now the question lingers...how do you DQ an unreadable disk for illegal audio....
Maybe they looked at it, heard the copyrighted audio, and then broke the disk...... or not
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Maybe they looked at it, heard the copyrighted audio, and then broke the disk...... or not
Hmm...and the theories begin....

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Copyrighted material used without permission has been a big thing in the past with animation submissions, and is likely the reason for your DQing. That's really unfortunate...

I remember last year our animation video was 35 seconds, but had precisely 30 seconds of actual animation, so I doubt there would be any problem with a slight deviation from the allowed time.
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Well did you use copyrighted music- or not? Its pretty clear in the rules that you must have the rights to use the music.

I also wondered how an unreadable disk can be disqualified for its content? Either it was unreadable or it wasn't.
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I also wondered how an unreadable disk can be disqualified for its content? Either it was unreadable or it wasn't.

...Hmm...indeed..that was the point I was trying to get at...
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...Hmm...indeed..that was the point I was trying to get at...
Yeah, I though of it as soon as I read the original post then I read your's and included the word "also" as a recognition of your post- however I see that is could be read as an aditional thought in addition to another thought of my own. So Yes I saw your point.

I am wondering if the DQ'd animation did habe copyrighted music or something. Any comments from the creator? I think this is a common problem that people have. With free internet downloads of illegal software and music- it may be hard to know what you can use and what you cant. Especially if your aren't a lawer.
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hmmm.... music copyright.. that might be my animation problem...gotta check with the final cut people... how can they find out if the music is not used by permission anyway?

Also, where did u guys get the rules from: 10 sec for stillframe, copyright for music, etc....how come the one i read didn't say anything about this? could someone give me the link to the animation rule they got from please
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as far as the "unreadable disc" you did send two right? One with credits, one without? One was probably unreadable.

There was a team update that had much information on it, but also the Awards>>Visualization Award Section, i beieve had all of that stuff!

And as far as the music copyright stuff, you pretty much have to ask the artist. We talked to a local band and they let us use some of their tracks. So in our credits it says "Song A" "Song B" & "Song C" used with exclusive permission from Artist Q.
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