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ONLY TWO plus 3481 so far to join the Low-Bar Challenged Support Group?!

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Re: Low-Bar Challenged Robots - Support Group

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Hard to say that. Being big doesn't necessarily provide any strategic advantage in this game except blocking shots, and a low bot could do that too.
A functional robot is a strategic advantage.
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A functional robot is a strategic advantage.
_YES_, Adam. And that includes making sure ALL the breakers are put back in.

Maybe that'll make a difference for us this season...

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I know 2959 Robotarians posted CAD of their tall robot.
Christopher... thank you for that info... I'll PM them to see if they want to join our Support Group.

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Re: Low-Bar Challenged Robots - Support Group

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What are the odds that 1114, 254 or similar will be joining your support group? While it may be slim, I think there is a chance.
Cheezy won't be, but maybe the Canadians will...
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I've always thought we make NICE bumpers...

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Re: Low-Bar Challenged Robots - Support Group

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Cheezy won't be, but maybe the Canadians will...
You're from that neck of the woods I guess, but based on the first low bar poll you might be wrong. (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/po...ts&pollid=2577) You can look at the people that answered one way or another by following that link. (3 different 254 contributors voted saying they were not going under the low bar). But you're right down the road from them... Hmmmm.

That said, I think that people have underestimated the value of an unblock-able and accurate shooter from the outer works. Obviously the shooter has to be accurate, but assuming your source boulders is the neutral zone or your secret passage, you can negate almost half the area (the entire enemy courtyard) where effective interference defense can be played. I think if most boulder runners shoot anywhere besides the outerworks safe zone or are blockable while inside that safe zone by a 54" nearby, defense will be a game changer in the elims. Even just a drivetain moving around in the enemy courtyard between the batter and the next boulder would have slowed down almost every robot I've seen video of from this weekend.

So 254 is probably (?) a member of the support group. Which just might be less of a support group and more of an exclusive club than most people realize. Haha.

Anyways, I would love to see people talk about how this analysis is flawed and what you think is a much more likely meta to emerge as more and more information comes out.

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I really don't think top tier teams will be low bar robots. They'll focus much more on being able to solo damage the other defenses (including class C), as well as having the fastest and most accurate high goal cycles/climbs as possible.
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You can look at the people that answered one way or another by following that link. (3 different 254 contributors voted saying they were not going under the low bar). But you're right down the road from them... Hmmmm.
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Awesome.. lol
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We are in this category, hopefully it pays off!
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Being born left-handed and part of about 15% of the general population I guess it was my destiny to also sign-off on a robot design that cannot go under the Low-Bar defense.

Having perused reveals and Week Zero events it looks like we are in a distinct minority this season in a sea of low-profile robots for this year's game.

So I'm starting this thread to provide comfort and advice and a sounding board for fellow Low-Bar Challenged teams across the world of FIRST FRC to unite in fellowship and support... and to rally to one another's side and, who knows, MAYBE change the world... because _you_ are NOT alone.

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Thank you Michael for starting this support group. We once saw ourselves being Low-Bar able but when we drove up to it we realized we were just two inches too tall, but we have since gotten comfortable in our own aluminum and now we hope others can too. Take pride in being tall!
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Thank you Michael for starting this support group. We once saw ourselves being Low-Bar able but when we drove up to it we realized we were just two inches too tall, but we have since gotten comfortable in our own aluminum and now we hope others can too. Take pride in being tall!
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