Low-Bar Challenged Robots - Support Group

[EricH]

1197 is low-bar challenged by choice. OTOH, we have a few tricks up our sleeves, and we aren't scared of Defense #10 (dragons don't burn other dragons).

[Ciaran.DeYoe]

Originally Posted by whitetail

I am guessing that the low bars are going to get clogged up within 30 seconds of tele-op. The big robots are useful for defense by blocking shots. Because if you get close enough to a robot no mater how tall it is you will be able to block the shots. I have yet to see a robot reveal where to robot is a big bot. I think you will just have to figure out how to most effectively play the game with your big robot. Best of luck

Keep in mind that while everyone says "gotta block dem high goal shots" doesn't mean you have to. All the teams at least right now can't make one even if they line up for 30 seconds. Our Robot is about a half of and inch under the height limit and we plan to never be a defense robot. You can still earn that qualification point without the low bar! Besides I see teams being slower at lowbar than Rockwall and Rough Terrain.

But I do love being in this support group. We will tower over other robots and I guess if 1st picks us (not likely) and wants us to play day D... We will.

[Michael Blake]

Originally Posted by EricH

1197 is low-bar challenged by choice. OTOH, we have a few tricks up our sleeves, and we aren't scared of Defense #10 (dragons don't burn other dragons).

Welcome to the group, Eric!

#ThinkTall #TallPower #PowertotheTalls #ImTallYoureNOT #GetShorty

--Michael Blake

[hardcopi]

Oh we definitely are not low-bar challenged... our bot could just plow through that, doubt it would even slow us down.... oh... you mean under it... yeah we can't do that.

At our practice event we were the biggest bot on the block, kinda like the feeling.

[Mastonevich]

I think 148 falls into the "similar" category and they are NOT a tall robot.

Don't let me down powerhouses!

Originally Posted by Mastonevich

What are the odds that 1114, 254 or similar will be joining your support group? While it may be slim, I think there is a chance.

[Ginger Power]

I'm 6' 7" and my robot is 4' 6" but it can still go under the low bar... can we still join your club?

[Robo Hamsters]

Originally Posted by hardcopi

Oh we definitely are not low-bar challenged... our bot could just plow through that, doubt it would even slow us down.... oh... you mean under it... yeah we can't do that.

Team 4466 here.

We're in this category too. 4'5" 6 CIM powerhouse! NOTHING can shove us.

Defense/blocking? NO PROBLEM!

[Woolly]

Originally Posted by Jared Russell

Well, some 254 members also voted that they will be scoring 0 points solo.
No one really knows for sure that the Cheesy Poofs haven't built a tall defensive robot. For that matter, no one knows for sure that we didn't do the same thing.

I guess everyone will find out soon enough.

[Michael Blake]

Originally Posted by Ginger Power

I'm 6' 7" and my robot is 4' 6" but it can still go under the low bar... can we still join your club?

Ryan... not sure Trans-Bar bots are eligible for the Support Group since you are not actually challenged.

INTERESTING thing to ponder, though... ;-)

--Michael Blake

[marshall]

Well... I was worried about 900's bot not standing out this year... can safely say that won't be a problem. #TeamTall

[PayneTrain]

Originally Posted by marshall

Well... I was worried about 900's bot not standing out this year... can safely say that won't be a problem. #TeamTall

must have really big swerve modules

[Abhishek R]

Just because a robot is low-bar capable doesn't mean their shots can be easily blocked. I don't see an advantage to not being able to go under the low bar, there are ways to account for the height difference, whether it's a different shooting position or an elevated point of release.

[CJ_Elliott]

Originally Posted by Abhishek R

Just because a robot is low-bar capable doesn't mean their shots can be easily blocked. I don't see an advantage to not being able to go under the low bar, there are ways to account for the height difference, whether it's a different shooting position or an elevated point of release.

To be entirely honest, I have no problem with teams that do low bar. I also do not see an issue with teams that shoot from an elevated position to get around the height limit. What I do feel is an issue, is that there will be teams that might not be able to do what they want to do as effectively because of the design constraint of the low-bar.

[Jaci]

We're also a member of #TeamTall

The way we see it, most robots on the field will be low-bar capable, so why would we add to that? It only takes 1 robot to damage the low bar defense, so why (apart from easy traversal), would 3 robots need to center their entire design around going under 1 defense. To me, it seems like a similar situation to the feeder stations last year.

Being tall has some advantages. Want to play defense? Just sit in front of the other robots. Want to play offense? Congrats, you can shoot over most of the other robots on the field. Sure, you could get pushed around if you're playing offense, but there's only one defensive bot on each alliance in any match, so I guess you can just act as a diversion while another robot scores.

Being tall is two sides of the same coin, but tall robots can have a huge advantage. Yes, the low bar is the most 'reliable' of the defenses, but if the other 2 robots on your alliance both have the low bar, it doesn't seem like a big deal to be honest.

[Michael Blake]

"I subscribe to the law of contrary public opinion: if everyone thinks one thing, then I say, bet the other way."

--Richard "Ricky" Roma - Glengarry Glen Ross (film)

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