Palmetto Regional Week 0.5

[Libby K]

Originally Posted by Libby K

Now on match 8, and 3 CDF's have broken.

Update: "We are out of CDFs, we are now taking it out of the running for selection until we can fix them."

....okay, then. I feel bad for whatever event has Palmetto's truck next...

[LDiDomenico]

And now they are out of chevals

[Hallry]

Originally Posted by Hallry

4 matches in...aaand the Cheval de Frise broke

Originally Posted by Libby K

Now on match 8, and 3 CDF's have broken.

Just announced that the CdF will be taken out of play. The Portcullis will automatically be selected for Category A defenses.

That is...interesting.

[lovelj]

Cheval de fries is toast. Took it out of the game

[JesseK]

So what happens if teams treat the portcullis like it's a 2-way draw bridge, and the event runs out of portcullis defenses?

[Ginger Power]

So many mechanisms built solely for the Cheval de Frise just became worthless. Wow. I can't even imagine the combined time and effort that, for now, was wasted. I'm hopeful that FIRST will come up with a solution for the long term.

[Peyton Yeung]

That would be awful if one of your only crossable defenses was the CDF and now it isn't usable.

[gafftron]

I wonder if there will be an update made to the Cheval to make it sturdier. Not sure how they would do it, but requiring the Portcullis to be out there changes a lot of the strategy teams can use.

[Kevin Thorp]

Originally Posted by Noudvanbrunscho

http://www.thebluealliance.com/gamed...w_0=2016scmb-1

Try this one.

Thanks, but that doesn't work either.

[BBray_T1296]

Originally Posted by gafftron

I wonder if there will be an update made to the Cheval to make it sturdier. Not sure how they would do it, but requiring the Portcullis to be out there changes a lot of the strategy teams can use.

Steel. Lots of Steel.

[The Lucas]

Originally Posted by Ginger Power

So many mechanisms built solely for the Cheval de Frise just became worthless. Wow. I can't even imagine the combined time and effort that, for now, was wasted. I'm hopeful that FIRST will come up with a solution for the long term.

I am glad we have a week 0.5 event this year to work these issues out. Otherwise the impact could be much greater. Sincere thanks to Palmetto for testing out the inevitable first competitive week flaws. Hopefully, they can resolve this soon, especially for those whose only event is this one.

[MrForbes]

Originally Posted by Ginger Power

So many mechanisms built solely for the Cheval de Frise just became worthless. Wow. I can't even imagine the combined time and effort that, for now, was wasted.

Yeah, wow. I'm sure glad we didn't waste any time trying to design and build a mechanism for it.

[s_forbes]

Originally Posted by gafftron

I wonder if there will be an update made to the Cheval to make it sturdier. Not sure how they would do it, but requiring the Portcullis to be out there changes a lot of the strategy teams can use.

Maybe they just need some big fender washers instead of the countersunk bolt that holds on the pivoting bracket. It would poke up a bit, but at least it wouldn't break all the time.

The drawing for the CDF starts on page 50 of the field drawings, for those curious.

[Ginger Power]

I'm really curious as to what part of the Cheval de Frise is breaking. If anybody could post pictures that would be awesome. I'm sure it's where the hardware attaches the boards to the pivot bar. I don't think having something sticking up from the Cheval de Frise would be an acceptable fix though. Many teams present company included need a smooth surface for the mechanism to work. I'd rather see thicker boards than hardware sticking up.

[Hallry]

And now a Rock Wall has been dislodged from a Defense Platform during Match 13...