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View Poll Results: What match type will the Stronghold World High Score be set in?
Qualification Match 43 18.94%
Playoff Match 184 81.06%
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Re: Will the 2016 World High Score be Set in Eliminations?

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2010 - Curie Qual 100
2011 - Waterloo Semi 1 Match 1
2012 - Curie Semi 1 Match 2
2013 - Galileo Quarter 1 Match 3
2014 - GTE Qual 4
2015 - Hopper Semi 2

Source: http://www.thebluealliance.com/insights/2016
Interesting that 4/6 of those matches had 1114 on the winning aliance (yes 2010 counts).
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Re: Will the 2016 World High Score be Set in Eliminations?

Good discussion here that will be answered over the next two months.
I'm going with a quarterfinal match in a shallow competition.
250 points

Now let's work on calling them playoffs, rather than eliminations.

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Now let's work on calling them playoffs, rather than eliminations.

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Are people seriously like... upset if they call things eliminations instead of playoffs? Like. Really?!? I just don't understand why a team/individual would be upset because someone said eliminations...

And as for elims vs quals, especially games where the game score changes (eg 2012) are almost definitely going to see the highscore in eliminations. The highest penalized 2014 score was in elims.
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Re: Will the 2016 World High Score be Set in Eliminations?

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Are people seriously like... upset if they call things eliminations instead of playoffs? Like. Really?!? I just don't understand why a team/individual would be upset because someone said eliminations...

And as for elims vs quals, especially games where the game score changes (eg 2012) are almost definitely going to see the highscore in eliminations. The highest penalized 2014 score was in elims.
No, people seriously like... are not upset if you choose to call "things" eliminations instead of playoffs.
It's in the Game Manual, that the matches that are played after alliance selection are referred to as Playoffs.
It's also suggested in the Game Manual that we refer to the "balls" as "boulders", but you are welcome to call them "spheres", or even "tetras".

The Cheval de Frise could be the Quadruple Orthogonal Balancing Bridge, and the Rock Wall is really just a Step.

I am considering referring to this years game as Aerial Frenzy Ascent Rebound Tower Rush.


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Re: Will the 2016 World High Score be Set in Eliminations?

Well the 'world' high score will be set at IRI.

But, the season high will be either set in division elim's or on Einstein.
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No, people seriously like... are not upset if you choose to call "things" eliminations instead of playoffs.
It's in the Game Manual, that the matches that are played after alliance selection are referred to as Playoffs.
It's also suggested in the Game Manual that we refer to the "balls" as "boulders", but you are welcome to call them "spheres", or even "tetras".

The Cheval de Frise could be the Quadruple Orthogonal Balancing Bridge, and the Rock Wall is really just a Step.

I am considering referring to this years game as Aerial Frenzy Ascent Rebound Tower Rush.


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I misunderstood your point then, apologies. I thought you were implying that the word playoffs was somehow nicer and more kind than the word eliminations, and thus we should use it.

Nonetheless I don't see much point of us trying to point out and change vocabulary for things that are virtual synonyms/derailing a thread even further over semantics. That's just picky. The game manual may be the rules for stronghold, but it isn't the rules for the English language. May as well time travel back to 2009 and demand everyone call coaches "commanders" and human players "payload specialists" because the words they use are pretty ridiculous sometimes.

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Well the 'world' high score will be set at IRI.

But, the season high will be either set in division elim's or on Einstein.
Well IRI usually has altered rules that allow the scores to significantly increase, so you can't really say that was the "world highs score"

I don't have the data in front of me, but I seem to recall it's about a 50/50 split for world high scores being set at worlds/at another event. With the most common event setting the world high score being Waterloo (I think it was like 3 times, but foggy memory) (even over top of a specific division) Worlds often really isn't that much different than say a winning alliance at a regional.
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Nonetheless I don't see much point of us trying to point out and change vocabulary for things that are virtual synonyms/derailing a thread even further over semantics. That's just picky. The game manual may be the rules for stronghold, but it isn't the rules for the English language.
I have been reminding people of this change in other threads, and I don't intend to derail them. Sorry 'bout that. EDIT: about.

I Game Announce in New England and I can't even count the times last year that I kept saying "eliminations". It's an 18-year habit.
It took me two competitions to stop saying that the Red or Blue alliance "won" a match last year. (So glad that's gone)
Oops, don't say won his year, they're the Victors, and not the ones from the Robot.

My problems so far this year include calling "boulders" balls and confusing the Tower with the Castle.

I should be well calibrated by the NEDCMP.

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Re: Will the 2016 World High Score be Set in Eliminations?

We've yet to see autonomous go horribly horribly wrong for an alliance. I think you combine the penalty points of a botched auton with a super alliance in quals and it could happen....maybe.

Certainly we wont see triple digit penalty points outside of quals, but in quals it's bound to happen at least once right? Imagine a robot starting near the mid line completely freaks out and does 5 donuts, crosses he mid line 5 times, and earns 5 tech fouls.

Stronghold is a ridiculous game. Expect the unexpected.
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