Go to Post The Chairman's award is about doing what you can to strengthen the FIRST community. It doesn't require money to simply lend tools, wise advice or a hand. - Koko Ed [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > FIRST > General Forum
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
 
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
  #13   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 01-03-2016, 10:39
JamesCH95's Avatar
JamesCH95 JamesCH95 is offline
Hardcore Dork
AKA: JCH
FRC #0095 (The Grasshoppers)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: Enfield, NH
Posts: 1,798
JamesCH95 has a reputation beyond reputeJamesCH95 has a reputation beyond reputeJamesCH95 has a reputation beyond reputeJamesCH95 has a reputation beyond reputeJamesCH95 has a reputation beyond reputeJamesCH95 has a reputation beyond reputeJamesCH95 has a reputation beyond reputeJamesCH95 has a reputation beyond reputeJamesCH95 has a reputation beyond reputeJamesCH95 has a reputation beyond reputeJamesCH95 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: #25 Chain

Quote:
Originally Posted by PayneTrain View Post
I believe if you are running the 7.56" wheels in a total reduction that gets you 6 fps, I think that operates outside of the recommended range of #25 chain. We've been fine with it this year after beating up three different robots with it over the last 7 weeks but we are running a single speed north of 12 fps on 22T sprockets.
The recommended working load of #25HD is around 90lbf. This is fine to exceed for shorter lifespans, but with the tiny sprockets teams are running this year...

In round numbers:

8in wheel diameter
2in chain wrap diameter
µF = 1.3
Robot weight = 140lbf

Assume:
All weight on one wheel (possible, if not likely, during defense crossing)
Drive is traction-limited (certainly the case at 6ft/s with 3 CIMs per side!)

Chain tension:
140lbf*1.3*8in/2in = 730lbf

Breaking strength of #25 is around 780lbf, giving one a FoS of 1.1, and virtually guaranteeing yielding in the chain.

This case is quite conservative, but being conservative in drive-train stress considerations is probably a good idea.

For consideration: in our chain-snapping 2016 drive train the calculated tension was 550lbf. Changing to #35, with a breaking strength of about 1900lbf, did the trick. In prior years we've had chain tensions in the 150-200lbf range. Having a FoS of 3+ versus chain breaking strength is probably a good idea.
__________________
Theory is a nice place, I'd like to go there one day, I hear everything works there.

Maturity is knowing you were an idiot, common sense is trying to not be an idiot, wisdom is knowing that you will still be an idiot.
Reply With Quote
 


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:37.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi