Pneumatic Regulators from Automation Direct

[only1chip]

The voucher instructions are here:

http://www.firstinspires.org/node/5621

The voucher should work with any account. PM me with your team number and AutomationDirect account number if you continue to have issues...

Chip

[jwfoss]

Originally Posted by Mark Sheridan

The nitra regulator is actually a metal works regulator (or at least marketed as metal works). I have used the metal works variety since 2014,. they are for sure relieving. I used them on the 3309 's 2014 robot in the intake to relieve air from impacts in addition to running the intake at lower pressure.
the metal works documents are a lot better with their symbols but not perfect:
http://www.metalwork.org/pdf/04_NPT_...A_20_09_13.pdf

I have not noticed a difference from the nitra and metal work samples I have now.

What are your experiences with the in line solenoids from Metal Work, also, did you use them direct as the supplier or was their another method of purchase. Thanks.

[only1chip]

Woot, Woot!!!

A BIG THANKS TO FIRST for clarifying the rules to 'officially' allow the use of our excellent (and super lightweight) regulator!

To celebrate, AutomationDirect would like to give way 10 sets of the regulator and matching gauge to 10 deserving FRC teams:

PRU14 REGULATOR 15-120 PSI 1/4in TUBE CONNECTIONS INLINE $20.25
PGU14 PRESSURE GAUGE 0-170 PSI 1/4in TUBE CONNECTIONS INLINE $17.75


So, the first 10 teams to tell us the following three things (in this thread) will win the parts:

1. How much weight could these parts save on your robot? Be as exact as possible, don’t forget the brass fittings that are no longer needed. We list the ‘packaged weight’ of the two parts above at 0.1lbs each – but I expect there is some rounding error there – maybe someone here on CD can help with a more exact figure??

2. What other AutomationDirect parts have you used on an FRC Robot (this year or previous)? Please include a link to the part on our webstore.

3. Your shipping address (if you are uncomfortable posting this publicly – you can PM me)


Please note that IF you haven’t used your AutomationDirect $30 voucher yet (instructions are here) – THEN you could actually purchase this same pair of parts for only $8 plus shipping. See Rick’s post above to learn how to qualify for our FREE two-day FedEx shipping.

And note that ALL voucher orders include a FREE tubing cutter… great for getting a clean, square cut on your pneumatic tubing, and preventing leaks!

THANKS AGAIN FIRST!

Chip

[Michael Corsetto]

Originally Posted by only1chip

1. How much weight could these parts save on your robot? Be as exact as possible, don’t forget the brass fittings that are no longer needed. We list the ‘packaged weight’ of the two parts above at 0.1lbs each – but I expect there is some rounding error there – maybe someone here on CD can help with a more exact figure??

2. What other AutomationDirect parts have you used on an FRC Robot (this year or previous)? Please include a link to the part on our webstore.

3. Your shipping address (if you are uncomfortable posting this publicly – you can PM me)

1. We are saving ~ .6 lbs by using two PGU14 and one PRU14. Even more important, we are saving lots of space with these parts. Thank you!

2. We are using the "U" shaped adapters to connect the above regulators and gauges into a tight block. TU14

We also use tube from automation direct (both 1/4" for typical runs and 5/32" tubing for runs that require a smaller bend radius)

We also use a myriad of push to connect fittings from Automation Direct

Automation Direct is one of our go-to suppliers, we probably spend $300-$500 on Automation Direct products annually.

3. I'll PM you address.

Thanks!

-Mike

[martin417]

Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV

I'm not talking about a quick exhaust valve in this comment, I'm talking about a 3-way exhausting valve, part H. of rule R77. Such as this




It's a check valve no mater how you plumb it, it's only legal to use it if you don't plug the exhaust port. The rule that allows quick exhaust valves like this to be used is


The quick exhaust mechanism is inherently a check valve.

Do you think a different part of R77 applies to quick exhaust valves?

After further review of the rules, I don't believe that a quick exhaust valve is legal this year. It has been ruled illegal in the past in Q&A, and I don't see any explicit allowance for it this year. I was basing my assumption of legality on your earlier post.

A quick exhaust valve is an assembly of parts, one of which is a check valve, but while it contains a check valve, it is not a check valve, any more than a pneumatic cylinder is a piston, or a car is a transmission.

[FrankJ]

Originally Posted by martin417

After further review of the rules, I don't believe that a quick exhaust valve is legal this year. It has been ruled illegal in the past in Q&A, and I don't see any explicit allowance for it this year. I was basing my assumption of legality on your earlier post.

A quick exhaust valve is an assembly of parts, one of which is a check valve, but while it contains a check valve, it is not a check valve, any more than a pneumatic cylinder is a piston, or a car is a transmission.

R77 is a little ambiguous when it comes to quick exhaust valves. A reasonable read of R77-H would allow them. R77-G specifically allows check valves as long as the high pressure vent will complete exhaust the system.

As an inspector, absent guidance from my LRI, I would allow them.

[AllenGregoryIV]

Originally Posted by martin417

After further review of the rules, I don't believe that a quick exhaust valve is legal this year. It has been ruled illegal in the past in Q&A, and I don't see any explicit allowance for it this year. I was basing my assumption of legality on your earlier post.

A quick exhaust valve is an assembly of parts, one of which is a check valve, but while it contains a check valve, it is not a check valve, any more than a pneumatic cylinder is a piston, or a car is a transmission.

I am an LRI and I'm saying that R77 G was put in place to allow quick exhaust valves. I agree the wording isn't perfect but that was the intent of the rule to my knowledge and how I will be enforcing it.

[AllenGregoryIV]

Originally Posted by only1chip

So, the first 10 teams to tell us the following three things (in this thread) will win the parts:

1. How much weight could these parts save on your robot? Be as exact as possible, don’t forget the brass fittings that are no longer needed. We list the ‘packaged weight’ of the two parts above at 0.1lbs each – but I expect there is some rounding error there – maybe someone here on CD can help with a more exact figure??

2. What other AutomationDirect parts have you used on an FRC Robot (this year or previous)? Please include a link to the part on our webstore.

3. Your shipping address (if you are uncomfortable posting this publicly – you can PM me)

1. We would save around ~.8 lbs removing a norgen regulator, two gauges, and several brass T fittings.

2. We use Automation direct clear tubing,
Several push connect fittings, we always you your push connect plugs. We have used your solenoids in the past and their is one mounted on our competition robot right now but may be changed, not sure yet. We have also used your cylinders before as well, very happy you all added STEP files for a lot more of your parts now, this is great for quickly testing in CAD before making purchases.

3. Allen Gregory
St. Agnes Academy
9000 Bellaire Blvd
Houston, TX, 77036

Thanks Automation Direct you all are awesome.

[Brandon Holley]

Originally Posted by Michael Corsetto

1. We are saving ~ .6 lbs by using two PGU14 and one PRU14. Even more important, we are saving lots of space with these parts. Thank you!

2. We are using the "U" shaped adapters to connect the above regulators and gauges into a tight block. TU14

We also use tube from automation direct (both 1/4" for typical runs and 5/32" tubing for runs that require a smaller bend radius)

We also use a myriad of push to connect fittings from Automation Direct

Automation Direct is one of our go-to suppliers, we probably spend $300-$500 on Automation Direct products annually.

3. I'll PM you address.

Thanks!

-Mike

1. We could save approximately 1 pound by removing all of the brass on our antequated pneumatic setup...

2. We have been using these for our prototype shooter- high Cv solenoids that are super cheap compared to others we've used in the past. More air, MORE POWER!

1.0/AM-526 MANIFOLD 6-STATION FOR AVS-52 SERIES VALVES ALUM
4.0/AM-52BP BLANKING PLATE FOR AM-52 SERIES MANIFOLDS STEEL
6.0/AVS-5211-24D VALVE 4-WAY 2-POS Cv=0.78 24VDC 1/8in FNPT SPOOL SGL-SOL ALUM
3.0/AVS-5221-24D VALVE 4-WAY 2-POS Cv=0.78 24VDC 1/8in FNPT SPOOL DBL-SOL ALUM


3. I will PM you!


-Brando

[Greg Needel]

Originally Posted by only1chip

Woot, Woot!!!

A BIG THANKS TO FIRST for clarifying the rules to 'officially' allow the use of our excellent (and super lightweight) regulator!

To celebrate, AutomationDirect would like to give way 10 sets of the regulator and matching gauge to 10 deserving FRC teams:

PRU14 REGULATOR 15-120 PSI 1/4in TUBE CONNECTIONS INLINE $20.25
PGU14 PRESSURE GAUGE 0-170 PSI 1/4in TUBE CONNECTIONS INLINE $17.75


So, the first 10 teams to tell us the following three things (in this thread) will win the parts:

1. How much weight could these parts save on your robot? Be as exact as possible, don’t forget the brass fittings that are no longer needed. We list the ‘packaged weight’ of the two parts above at 0.1lbs each – but I expect there is some rounding error there – maybe someone here on CD can help with a more exact figure??

2. What other AutomationDirect parts have you used on an FRC Robot (this year or previous)? Please include a link to the part on our webstore.

3. Your shipping address (if you are uncomfortable posting this publicly – you can PM me)

1.We would save 1.2 lbs as we are running a 3 pressure system with 2 regulators.

2. We have been buying all of our quick connect tubing fittings from automation direct because they are cheaper and lighter than the ones from mcmaster

3. I'll PM you

[NickE]

Originally Posted by only1chip

Woot, Woot!!!

A BIG THANKS TO FIRST for clarifying the rules to 'officially' allow the use of our excellent (and super lightweight) regulator!

To celebrate, AutomationDirect would like to give way 10 sets of the regulator and matching gauge to 10 deserving FRC teams:

PRU14 REGULATOR 15-120 PSI 1/4in TUBE CONNECTIONS INLINE $20.25
PGU14 PRESSURE GAUGE 0-170 PSI 1/4in TUBE CONNECTIONS INLINE $17.75


So, the first 10 teams to tell us the following three things (in this thread) will win the parts:

1. How much weight could these parts save on your robot? Be as exact as possible, don’t forget the brass fittings that are no longer needed. We list the ‘packaged weight’ of the two parts above at 0.1lbs each – but I expect there is some rounding error there – maybe someone here on CD can help with a more exact figure??

2. What other AutomationDirect parts have you used on an FRC Robot (this year or previous)? Please include a link to the part on our webstore.

3. Your shipping address (if you are uncomfortable posting this publicly – you can PM me)

Chip,

1. We'll save around 0.5lb. The smaller size is just as important and may allow for some minor reconfiguration of the pneumatic components and shortening of tubes, which would be nice.
2. We're expecting a few pneumatic cylinders to arrive in the mail today from AD...
3. Will PM you an address.

Thanks AD!

[jwfoss]

Originally Posted by only1chip

Woot, Woot!!!

A BIG THANKS TO FIRST for clarifying the rules to 'officially' allow the use of our excellent (and super lightweight) regulator!

To celebrate, AutomationDirect would like to give way 10 sets of the regulator and matching gauge to 10 deserving FRC teams:

PRU14 REGULATOR 15-120 PSI 1/4in TUBE CONNECTIONS INLINE $20.25
PGU14 PRESSURE GAUGE 0-170 PSI 1/4in TUBE CONNECTIONS INLINE $17.75


So, the first 10 teams to tell us the following three things (in this thread) will win the parts:

1. How much weight could these parts save on your robot? Be as exact as possible, don’t forget the brass fittings that are no longer needed. We list the ‘packaged weight’ of the two parts above at 0.1lbs each – but I expect there is some rounding error there – maybe someone here on CD can help with a more exact figure??

2. What other AutomationDirect parts have you used on an FRC Robot (this year or previous)? Please include a link to the part on our webstore.

3. Your shipping address (if you are uncomfortable posting this publicly – you can PM me)


Please note that IF you haven’t used your AutomationDirect $30 voucher yet (instructions are here) – THEN you could actually purchase this same pair of parts for only $8 plus shipping. See Rick’s post above to learn how to qualify for our FREE two-day FedEx shipping.

And note that ALL voucher orders include a FREE tubing cutter… great for getting a clean, square cut on your pneumatic tubing, and preventing leaks!

THANKS AGAIN FIRST!

Chip

1. This year we'll be saving at least 1lbs thanks to using the Automation Direct Components.

2. We currently have the AR-213 on both our competition robot and the practice bot, and we have some PRU14 and PGU14 downstream to regulate our intake actuation.

3. Will PM you the Address.

Thanks!

[Knufire]

Chip,

1. We'll be saving about 0.7lbs, but a LOT of space. We're also using a bunch of heavy brass connectors in this area of the robot.

2. We've actually been using more sensors from AD than pneumatic components. Specifically: http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/...es)/QMRB-0N-0A

3. I'll PM you!

[Peter Johnson]

Originally Posted by only1chip

So, the first 10 teams to tell us the following three things (in this thread) will win the parts:

1. How much weight could these parts save on your robot? Be as exact as possible, don’t forget the brass fittings that are no longer needed. We list the ‘packaged weight’ of the two parts above at 0.1lbs each – but I expect there is some rounding error there – maybe someone here on CD can help with a more exact figure??

2. What other AutomationDirect parts have you used on an FRC Robot (this year or previous)? Please include a link to the part on our webstore.

3. Your shipping address (if you are uncomfortable posting this publicly – you can PM me)

1. We'll save around 0.5 lbs in brass and other fittings.
2. We've not used AD parts before but are definitely planning on using more of them in the future; the pricing and options are great! We were about to place an order when you posted this.
3. Will PM you.

Thanks so much AD for your contributions to the FIRST community and an outstanding pneumatic selection!

[Richard.Varone]

Originally Posted by only1chip

Woot, Woot!!!

A BIG THANKS TO FIRST for clarifying the rules to 'officially' allow the use of our excellent (and super lightweight) regulator!

To celebrate, AutomationDirect would like to give way 10 sets of the regulator and matching gauge to 10 deserving FRC teams:

PRU14 REGULATOR 15-120 PSI 1/4in TUBE CONNECTIONS INLINE $20.25
PGU14 PRESSURE GAUGE 0-170 PSI 1/4in TUBE CONNECTIONS INLINE $17.75


So, the first 10 teams to tell us the following three things (in this thread) will win the parts:

1. How much weight could these parts save on your robot? Be as exact as possible, don’t forget the brass fittings that are no longer needed. We list the ‘packaged weight’ of the two parts above at 0.1lbs each – but I expect there is some rounding error there – maybe someone here on CD can help with a more exact figure??

2. What other AutomationDirect parts have you used on an FRC Robot (this year or previous)? Please include a link to the part on our webstore.

3. Your shipping address (if you are uncomfortable posting this publicly – you can PM me)


Please note that IF you haven’t used your AutomationDirect $30 voucher yet (instructions are here) – THEN you could actually purchase this same pair of parts for only $8 plus shipping. See Rick’s post above to learn how to qualify for our FREE two-day FedEx shipping.

And note that ALL voucher orders include a FREE tubing cutter… great for getting a clean, square cut on your pneumatic tubing, and preventing leaks!

THANKS AGAIN FIRST!

Chip

1) We'll save ~1lb using these components but like the others have stated, the space is just as big if not even more important then the weight!

2) PLUG14, PU14YEL100, PU14RED100, TC-12

3)Will PM