Go to Post The ChiefDelphi forums are more than just a place for people to kill time and engage in some chit chat. - Karthik [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > Competition > Rules/Strategy
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Closed Thread
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 02-04-2003, 19:20
Kevin A Kevin A is offline
In Hibernation
#0481 (DART)
Team Role: Mechanical
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Rookie Year: 2000
Location: Richmond, CA
Posts: 244
Kevin A will become famous soon enough
Send a message via AIM to Kevin A
Drivers: Who listens to the anouncers?

Hello,

For the drivers out there, who listens to the field announcer for help? Things like time, what other robots are doing, and whos having problems? At first I didn't, but I have grown to depend on them...

Kevin Antaki
Team 481

IM Me: xpalendocious
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 02-04-2003, 19:23
rbayer's Avatar Unsung FIRST Hero
rbayer rbayer is offline
Blood, Sweat, and Code
no team (Teamless Orphan)
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: Minnetonka, MN
Posts: 1,087
rbayer is a glorious beacon of lightrbayer is a glorious beacon of lightrbayer is a glorious beacon of lightrbayer is a glorious beacon of lightrbayer is a glorious beacon of light
Send a message via AIM to rbayer
I never listened to the announcer, just my "coach", who was actually just another student. He told me everything from how much time we had left to which stacks I should go knock down, all of which allowed me to concentrate on the actual driving and forget about strategy. Honestly, I didn't even hear the crowd, much less the announcer, during matches.

--Rob
__________________
New C-based RoboEmu2 (code simulator) available at: http://www.robbayer.com/software.php
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 02-04-2003, 19:26
sanddrag sanddrag is offline
On to my 16th year in FRC
FRC #0696 (Circuit Breakers)
Team Role: Teacher
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Glendale, CA
Posts: 8,518
sanddrag has a reputation beyond reputesanddrag has a reputation beyond reputesanddrag has a reputation beyond reputesanddrag has a reputation beyond reputesanddrag has a reputation beyond reputesanddrag has a reputation beyond reputesanddrag has a reputation beyond reputesanddrag has a reputation beyond reputesanddrag has a reputation beyond reputesanddrag has a reputation beyond reputesanddrag has a reputation beyond repute
I listened when they said we sheared off our arm because I didn't even see it happen. But don't let that make you worry about our robot. It is one of the most robust in the crowd. I also listened when the anouncer said "And the Circuit Breakers are doing their happy dance on top of the platform!" Those were a couple of great matches. Everyone else was either flipped or disabled in some way so we just spun around on the ramp waving our arms for the last 30 seconds. Does anyone have video of that?
__________________
Teacher/Engineer/Machinist - Team 696 Circuit Breakers, 2011 - Present
Mentor/Engineer/Machinist, Team 968 RAWC, 2007-2010
Technical Mentor, Team 696 Circuit Breakers, 2005-2007
Student Mechanical Leader and Driver, Team 696 Circuit Breakers, 2002-2004
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 02-04-2003, 19:28
Archon Archon is offline
Registered User
#0967 (Mean Machine)
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Marion, IA
Posts: 16
Archon is an unknown quantity at this point
As one of those "coaches" I can say fairly confidentely that the driver is paying far too much attention to what he is doing to listen to the announcer. This isn't neccessarily a bad thing, that's what I'm there for.
__________________
Behind every good computer... is a jumble of wires 'n stuff.
  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 02-04-2003, 19:42
Halon Halon is offline
Registered User
#0662 (Rocky Mountain Robotics)
Team Role: Driver
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 23
Halon is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via AIM to Halon
I usually only listened to the announcer when I couldn't see what I was doing or when we were fighting for the ramp. Another thing that helped me out when my robot was on the other side of the field was looking at the huge screen instead of the playing field. It was much easier to drive like that when the boxes hadn't been knocked down in auto mode because the screen usually showed the whole playing field. I usually have our operator read out the time to me.
__________________
---Tyler Nicely---
Team 662
Rocky Mountain Robotics
2004 Colorado Regional Winners
2003 Sacramento Regional Winners
2003 Sacramento Entrepreneurship Award Winners
  #6   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 02-04-2003, 20:44
Kevin A Kevin A is offline
In Hibernation
#0481 (DART)
Team Role: Mechanical
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Rookie Year: 2000
Location: Richmond, CA
Posts: 244
Kevin A will become famous soon enough
Send a message via AIM to Kevin A
I am the operator, and only once has my drive team given me good information. The annoucer is usually accurate, so that helps. And as for not paying attn to the crowd, i think thats because you cant hear them. We blew a gear box, and our robot was making horrific ringing/grinding/dieing noises. Or so i was told. I couldnt hear it behing the plexi
  #7   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 02-04-2003, 20:51
KevK's Avatar
KevK KevK is offline
Registered User
#0121 (Islanders)
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Middletown RI
Posts: 23
KevK is an unknown quantity at this point
Listen? Never!

When im behind the glass, i ignore everything else besides my drive team. My coach tells me what to do, i do it. I lot of times, i don;t even realzie something big has happened till after the match, when we go pick up the robot.
__________________
121 used to stack, unstacks, and gently removes robots from the ramp!!
  #8   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 02-04-2003, 21:08
Jeff Waegelin's Avatar
Jeff Waegelin Jeff Waegelin is offline
El Jefe de 148
AKA: Midwest Refugee
FRC #0148 (Robowranglers)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: Greenville, TX
Posts: 3,132
Jeff Waegelin has a reputation beyond reputeJeff Waegelin has a reputation beyond reputeJeff Waegelin has a reputation beyond reputeJeff Waegelin has a reputation beyond reputeJeff Waegelin has a reputation beyond reputeJeff Waegelin has a reputation beyond reputeJeff Waegelin has a reputation beyond reputeJeff Waegelin has a reputation beyond reputeJeff Waegelin has a reputation beyond reputeJeff Waegelin has a reputation beyond reputeJeff Waegelin has a reputation beyond repute
I never listen to the announcers. In my mind, they're entirely blanked out. I've glanced at the screen once or twice, though. Between me and Steph, our coach, we keep track of the whole match on our own.
__________________
Jeff Waegelin
Mechanical Engineer, Innovation First Labs
Lead Engineer, Team 148 - The Robowranglers
  #9   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 02-04-2003, 21:16
Austin's Avatar
Austin Austin is offline
Go TechnoKats!
FRC #0045 (TechnoKats Robotics Team)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Kokomo, In
Posts: 159
Austin is a name known to allAustin is a name known to allAustin is a name known to allAustin is a name known to allAustin is a name known to allAustin is a name known to all
Send a message via AIM to Austin
I ususally only listen to Andy (the coach)who calls out strategy and DJ (our human player) who calls out time, and Clark (Operator) who tells me what state our "Puck" control is in. Very rarely do i listen to the announcer, but every once in a while i hear a short little phrase!
__________________
Austin Butler| Mac Addict | Purdue AAE | President, Sigma Gamma Tau | ENS USN/Student Naval Aviator
2002-2005 driver | 2004 Lead Mechanical | 2004-2005 Co-Student Leader | TechnoKats Robotics Team 45

Need a gearbox? Omniwheels? Check out AndyMark.biz
  #10   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 02-04-2003, 21:31
Joel J's Avatar
Joel J Joel J is offline
do you..
no team
 
Join Date: May 2001
Rookie Year: 2000
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 1,445
Joel J has a reputation beyond reputeJoel J has a reputation beyond reputeJoel J has a reputation beyond reputeJoel J has a reputation beyond reputeJoel J has a reputation beyond reputeJoel J has a reputation beyond reputeJoel J has a reputation beyond reputeJoel J has a reputation beyond reputeJoel J has a reputation beyond reputeJoel J has a reputation beyond reputeJoel J has a reputation beyond repute
This is a weird answer.. During any given match, I am only concious of what is said by the other members of my drive team. But after the match, I remember what the announcer and our partner were saying while the match was in progress. Our partner always yells to us their current status, and what they need help with, and I react to it. But I don't really hear what they said until after the match.. yeah, I am contradicting myself, but I'm saying it exactly like it is. Zoning out is the word I guess, and it happens automatically to drivers, I would hope. Whatever.
__________________
Joel Johnson

Division By Zero (229) Alumni, 2003-2007
RAGE (173) Alumni, 1999-2003
  #11   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 02-04-2003, 22:13
ryanspensley ryanspensley is offline
Registered User
#0171 (Hardcore Engineers)
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Platteville WI
Posts: 49
ryanspensley is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via Yahoo to ryanspensley
Post

When I drive I usually block everything out, except for the other driver mostly. I know what my mission is and I complete it while checking with my alliance partner. I do listen to some comments from the coaches, but usually they dont have that much to say except tracking the score. When I run out of things to do and am sitting at the top of the ramp, thats usually when i listen to my team.
  #12   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 02-04-2003, 22:20
tenfour's Avatar
tenfour tenfour is offline
Registered User
AKA: Chris
#0696 (The Circuit Breakers)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: La Crescenta
Posts: 137
tenfour will become famous soon enough
Send a message via AIM to tenfour
I don't Listen Really

I just try to black it out except our strategy guy, Punar and our driver, Sanddrag. Otherwise, I don't listen unless the match gets really boring or they say something really surprising (like that we sheared off our arm)!
__________________
-2004 Arizona Regional Finalists (thanks 80 and 498)
-2004 Arizona Regional Sportsmanship Award
-2003 Los Angeles, CA Regional Finalists
-2003 Phoenix, AZ Regional Semifinalists
-2003 Phoenix, AZ Regional 3rd Seed.
-2002 Los Angeles, CA Regional Semi-Finalists
-2001 Los Angeles, CA Regional Semi-Finalists


FIRST Mantra - When Lawyer-ism fails, Gracious Professionalism Prevails.
(Yes, it is "BCR Orange")
  #13   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 02-04-2003, 22:21
Powers's Avatar
Powers Powers is offline
Registered User
#0710 (PAW)
Team Role: College Student
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 229
Powers is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to Powers
I have never listened to the announcers, even though i am the one driving the arm and am thus not doing very much, i am usually too busy watching our robot run around and trying to see if we are winning.
__________________
Team 710 PAW Alum
The team that supports the use of the word "Blatantly"
TEXAS WON THE ROSE BOWL
  #14   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 02-04-2003, 22:40
David Lantz's Avatar
David Lantz David Lantz is offline
Registered User
None #0118
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Rookie Year: 2001
Location: Iowa
Posts: 57
David Lantz will become famous soon enough
Most of the time I'm in my "zone". This means that if you yell something unrelated into my ear I'm liable to look at you and blink, then continue to play. I usually end up so wrapped up in the game that its hard to realize that its over even though I was to one yelling: Get on top!!!!!! Get on top!!!!! 3!!!..2!!!..1!!!..
__________________
Those who say it cannot be done should not stand in the way of those who are doing it.
-Someone Famous

Last edited by David Lantz : 02-04-2003 at 22:42.
  #15   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 02-04-2003, 22:40
Matt Brinza Matt Brinza is offline
Registered User
#0016 (Baxter Bomb Squad)
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Mountain Home, AR
Posts: 15
Matt Brinza is an unknown quantity at this point
Not just drivers...

Hey, Matt here from team #16, Baxter Bomb Squad. I'm one of the human players for our team this year, and even I don't notice the announcer. I stay focused on calculating the score and suggesting strategy options to our coach... I don't pay much attention to anything else.

Some of the commentary provided by the announcer is rather interesting, though. Watching videos of our matches, I was rather surprised how informational the commentary really was.
Closed Thread


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2003 IRI: A driver's last hurrah or a new rookie driver's experience? Amanda Morrison Off-Season Events 14 23-05-2003 17:39
Drunk Drivers MBiddy Chit-Chat 2 28-04-2003 00:52
How does your team pick your drivers? Tton General Forum 14 08-04-2003 20:54
Wireless camera ALLOWED as driver's aide? Travis Hoffman Rules/Strategy 7 19-01-2003 02:31
Driver's Controls 157#1Driver General Forum 22 23-04-2002 17:06


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:07.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi