Possible interference during San Diego Finals

[Wes2443]

https://vid.me/aKYg

Maybe a biased opinion for obvious reasons, but I don't think any of the refs saw this. What is your opinion/interpretation on this?

[interpretTHIS]

This looks like a clear judgment made on T20. Note the blue box. If it was determined that it didn't affect the outcome of the match in the opinion of the head ref, then the ARENA FAULT doesn't have to result in a replay.

[rich2202]

Scary. Must be a small venue if spectators can get that close.

[Jaci]

Glad to see that safety is the number one concern /s

[pilleya]

I would have thought that there would be an "exclusion" zone around the field, not just to protect gameplay but to protect spectators from injury, that child could have easily been injured. Robot Drivers and Operators, have a tough job already, without having to look for hands and arms inside the field. Yes, it could have quite possibly been a small venue, but if the venue is so small that there isn't enough room for a safe zone around the field, then venue needs to be bigger

[Boltman]

It was in the Del Mar arena which is usually for horse shows... and yes its a smaller venue. You could literally almost stand right behind the drive team if you wanted . There really were not enough viewing seats since only half of the field had seats the other was the backdrop for the video.

As for the kid grabbing the ball... it did not affect the outcome. Pretty sure the refs were focused on the aggressive defense being played. I was pretty stunned at how much teams played defense in San Diego...even we did when our ball got stuck, pretty amazed we did that and were not bad at it.

[steelerborn]

Which match was this in?

The point difference in the third match was only one ball.
So if it was in that match, it would really affect the outcome.
And would have forced a fourth final match.

It looked like the ball was right in the corner of the field and would have been harder to intake.
Perhaps slowing the alliance down by one goal.

I also think the refs might have missed it there is a lot to follow on the field.

[Boltman]

The kid picked up and threw the ball with no bots around I don't see a big issue there other than kid safety pretty sure it did not effect that games ultimate outcome at all.

[rich2202]

Originally Posted by steelerborn

I also think the refs might have missed it there is a lot to follow on the field.

Ref's are watching the Bots. If there is no bot around, Ref's would not likely to be looking there.

The Spy in the Spy Box was oblivious to the kid next to him.

[Doug Frisk]

Originally Posted by Boltman

The kid picked up and threw the ball with no bots around I don't see a big issue there other than kid safety pretty sure it did not effect that games ultimate outcome at all.

What was the score on that? Clearly that red robot decided they couldn't pick up the ball in the corner, so by moving it into the field where it was accessible it did have the potential to affect the outcome.

Pretty sure I'd have smacked the field E-Stop if presented with that situation. I hope someone impressed upon that kid the importance of staying a safe distance.

[IronicDeadBird]

This should not have happened, the rules are clear children under 12 aren't allowed in the pit without adult supervision why these same rules aren't in place for the field is beyond me.

[bstew]

Originally Posted by IronicDeadBird

This should not have happened, the rules are clear children under 12 aren't allowed in the pit without adult supervision why these same rules aren't in place for the field is beyond me.

G30 states:

Only DRIVE TEAMS for the current MATCH are allowed in their respective CASTLES.
Violation: MATCH will not start until the situation is corrected. Those not displaying identification must leave the ARENA.

Children under 12 should never be in the Arena unless they are on a drive team for the current match. I think the rules are fine as they are, but may need to be enforced better.

[Boltman]

Originally Posted by DareDad

What was the score on that? Clearly that red robot decided they couldn't pick up the ball in the corner, so by moving it into the field where it was accessible it did have the potential to affect the outcome.

Pretty sure I'd have smacked the field E-Stop if presented with that situation. I hope someone impressed upon that kid the importance of staying a safe distance.

That bot was scoring a LG and missed so at most it was a two point assist by the kid if that boulder gets picked up seems like. YOu are correct they could have stopped the game perhaps they did not feel it necessary or even saw it.

[IronicDeadBird]

Originally Posted by bstew

G30 states:


Children under 12 should never be in the Arena unless they are on a drive team for the current match. I think the rules are fine as they are, but may need to be enforced better.

I'll agree to that I'm still disturbed by the lack of response from anyone though.

[PerryParadox]

As a part of that winning alliance this seems like a huge lack of foresight on the refs part, the kid should definitely not have been allowed that close, the whole event was a bit off due to the fact of it being hosted at a new area on such quick notice.