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Re: Scoring/game issues

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Are you sure no foul was called because those can add scaling points to other alliance.
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G17 may also apply if someone's jumping the gun.


The combination of those two could easily generate that result.
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Re: Scoring/game issues

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G28, for those that need a reference.

G17 may also apply if someone's jumping the gun.


The combination of those two could easily generate that result.
So, here is the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p7joyGrT8g

MikLast is right. We didn't make it up high enough for the scale. And, while the video doesn't show our third player, the robot is clearly in their own courtyard at the end of the match near an opposing robot. I'm guessing they were playing defense well into the last 20 seconds and cost us that 15 points. This is really good to know as it's a HUGE penalty and would explain why there are scaling points all over the place even though no one else is scaling. It would be nice to have it labeled as a penalty instead of a scale. That would help us trying to figure out the scoring stuff.

The final score for them gives them a scale but no challenge. So, I don't know what robot was hit but, it would seem like the red bot had to hit the blue one on the battery for red to not pick up 20 points total instead of the just the 15.

I appreciate the help in this!
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Re: Scoring/game issues

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So, here is the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p7joyGrT8g

MikLast is right. We didn't make it up high enough for the scale. And, while the video doesn't show our third player, the robot is clearly in their own courtyard at the end of the match near an opposing robot. I'm guessing they were playing defense well into the last 20 seconds and cost us that 15 points. This is really good to know as it's a HUGE penalty and would explain why there are scaling points all over the place even though no one else is scaling. It would be nice to have it labeled as a penalty instead of a scale. That would help us trying to figure out the scoring stuff.

The final score for them gives them a scale but no challenge. So, I don't know what robot was hit but, it would seem like the red bot had to hit the blue one on the battery for red to not pick up 20 points total instead of the just the 15.

I appreciate the help in this!
I think they do that because that is the same as the infinite height time to scale and most bots need full 20 seconds to scale. So they count is as scaling because who knows what would have really occurred without an interfering defensive bot?

Going to have to remind our drive team to remind our alliance partners to tag bots when they hear the 20 second warning if in our courtyard..that's a lot of points.
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Going to have to remind our drive team to remind our alliance partners to tag bots when they hear the 20 second warning if in our courtyard..that's a lot of points.
Beware of G11 here. If you run into an opponent in their courtyard on your way to the tower in the last 20 seconds then G28 will grant you scale points, but if you are clearly chasing down an opponent in their courtyard just to 'tag' them, then G11 kicks in and you could earn yourself a penalty instead.

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Beware of G11 here. If you run into an opponent in their courtyard on your way to the tower in the last 20 seconds then G28 will grant you scale points, but if you are clearly chasing down an opponent in their courtyard just to 'tag' them, then G11 kicks in and you could earn yourself a penalty instead.
Ok thanks for the reminder

AS for scale points from original OP was that a G28 last 20 second contact in opponents courtyard...that adds scale points
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