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Re: pic: What's wrong with this score?

Did the power go out on match 62 and corrupt the match data?
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Re: pic: What's wrong with this score?

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Not that it DID happen like this, but it COULD have happened like this:
  • All of the boulders red scored except the 3 auto boulders were from the blue secret passage, or cleverly bowled by a human player. Too many ways to reach 42 with eight or more boulders that I won't try to count.
  • RedBotA began in the courtyard as the SPYBOT.
  • RedBotA drove into the secret passage, up to the edge of the neutral zone, and RedBotB drove on top of RedBotA. RedBotA then drove back into the courtyard and RedBotB drove off. No G20 foul.
  • RedBotC tried to cross the ramparts at full speed and flipped so severely that the right bumper flipped up over the left divider, so while it successfully traversed the outer works, it did not complete a CROSS due to the second bullet in 3.1.3.
  • All three robots clamber onto unique portions of the BATTER at match end.

No stranger than those triple tortugas and the near-misses and the traveling rock wall.
If they lost their bumper they would be disabled before they could get to the batter... nice try though (G-19-1)
HMMM unless you meant that they just passed their bumper over the divider.... thereby losing the crossing score. There would be many options using this scenario actually if it were done a number of times.
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Re: pic: What's wrong with this score?

If this year's rules about needing all the robots on the batter were like last year's autonomous rules, then you could theoretically get a capture with just one robot--if it were the only one to show up. You can get a "reach" in autonomous even if you start from the courtyard side (the manual just says one bumper has to be in the outer works), so the whole thing could be done by one lonely red robot starting as a spybot, driving up to one defense in auto, then spending the entire match in the courtyard shooting boulders before hanging. Unfortunately it looks like you actually do need all three robots on the field for a capture though.
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Re: pic: What's wrong with this score?

Official final data, from the source:
http://frc-events.firstinspires.org/...lifications/62
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http://frc-events.firstinspires.org/...lifications/62
This was the score of the rematch, the original match temporarily had a score of 99-98 (40 pts for breach added) until the rematch.
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Re: pic: What's wrong with this score?

Since everyone is wondering... This was really the 3rd attempt (of 4) to play Q62. 3937 knocked out the moat the first 2 tries, and actually did on the 3rd but not enough to notice, and everyone was tired of resetting their robots. For whatever reason with the FMS we weren't able to do auto in try 3 (crossed both times previously). The ref in charge of the blue defenses (red crossing) failed to credit all but a couple crossings... We crossed the low bar 3 times, moat 4, cheval 3, etc. Basically we didn't know what was gone because none of the lights were going out. Yes we fully crossed. There was also an issue with the field or something because one of the Blue Alliance driver station team numbers was flickering the entire time. Red was crossing extra defenses not knowing what was destroyed and Blue eased up thinking they were way ahead.

We replayed in the morning and you can see the posted outcome. Unfortunate but we should have been consistent enough for it not to matter. Congrats Blue Alliance.
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If this year's rules about needing all the robots on the batter were like last year's autonomous rules, then you could theoretically get a capture with just one robot--if it were the only one to show up. You can get a "reach" in autonomous even if you start from the courtyard side (the manual just says one bumper has to be in the outer works), so the whole thing could be done by one lonely red robot starting as a spybot, driving up to one defense in auto, then spending the entire match in the courtyard shooting boulders before hanging. Unfortunately it looks like you actually do need all three robots on the field for a capture though.
Nope, check out Q916:

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  • Q. According to the definition of CAPTURE, the state of a TOWER if, at the end of the MATCH, it is WEAKENED, and it is surrounded such that each of the three (3) opponent ROBOTS has SCALED or CHALLENGED a unique face of the TOWER. If an ALLIANCE robot is not on the field at the beginning of a match, and a tower meets the definition of WEAKENED, can two CHALLENGING and/or SCALING robots complete a CAPTURE?
  • A. No, a CAPTURE requires all three (3) opponent ROBOTS. It's in an ALLIANCE'S best interest to help ensure all Teams on the ALLIANCE are ready to play in a MATCH, or a CAPTURE cannot be accomplished
And in my earlier post, I did not mean that the bumpers came off of the robot, just that they passed at least partially outside of the dividers for that defense. Obviously, there are other ways this same thing could happen (such as a robot that climbs over a divider for whatever reason), but I was trying to think of things that robot's wouldn't have to be designed specifically to do.
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