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Re: WestCoastBestCoast Week 1 and 2 Wrapup + Week 3 Analysis

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We are very encouraged by the positive response.

254 was more than happy to provide us with some strategies to help other teams do well at their future events. Caveats apply: this only works at select California events, but all other events are invalid anyway.

We all know how hard it is to make a great second pick. The rising star of San Jose might have a method some teams should look in to:



Thanks for all of the help, guys and gals!

Whoa whoa, your flowchart is missing some critical pieces. There is no sandbag #1 pick.


We're still working on sandbag #1 seed, not really sure how to accomplish that one yet.
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Whoa whoa, your flowchart is missing some critical pieces. There is no sandbag #1 pick.


We're still working on sandbag #1 seed, not really sure how to accomplish that one yet.
I'm still amazed you managed to sandbag WFFA...

CMP Conference talk on competitive sandbagging?
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There is no sandbag #1 pick.
Hmmm here I was thinking CVR 2014 was all a master plan..
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Re: WestCoastBestCoast Week 1 and 2 Wrapup + Week 3 Analysis

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I'm still amazed you managed to sandbag WFFA...

CMP Conference talk on competitive sandbagging?
Minor nitpicky point here: The students had to submit the WFFA nomination, which means that Adam himself couldn't sandbag it. It therefore follows that he has been incredibly successful at mentoring his students on how to sandbag properly and all the necessary communication skills to pull it off. Which means he rightfully deserved the WFFA...so...it wasn't sandbagged?

It brings us to the existential questions: If one intends to sandbag and accidentally doesn't, was it still sandbagging? Did Adam's communication skills actually fail in such a way that he taught anti-sandbagging? Is the whole WFFA premised on a sham? And if so, was the sandbagging actually successful? Is Adam actually Darude? We may never know.

(All joking aside, well deserved Adam, regardless of how well you taught them sandbagging or not)
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Re: WestCoastBestCoast Week 1 and 2 Wrapup + Week 3 Analysis

We usually work with 254 to find the most non-functional robot at the competition as our joint 2nd pick. We pit test them and if any electrical current flows we immediately drop them from our list. Some teams are better showing dysfunctionality than others.

BTW, how am I supposed to decipher your graphics if you don't put numbers on them?
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I hope one day we'll be good enough that when we suck, people will think we're sandbagging, instead of just sucking. That's every mentor's dream, right?
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I hope one day we'll be good enough that when we suck, people will think we're sandbagging, instead of just sucking. That's every mentor's dream, right?
I've been sandbagging for 14 years now.
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I hope one day we'll be good enough that when we suck, people will think we're sandbagging, instead of just sucking. That's every mentor's dream, right?
This only works if you get picked #1 overall after said stinking, based entirely on the fact that the top seed doesn't want to play against you.
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LOL. I don't think I've actually talked to a judge since 2013.
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This only works if you get picked #1 overall after said stinking, based entirely on the fact that the top seed doesn't want to play against you.
Fear our can grabbers!

No, seriously. I'm amazed they passed safety inspection and didn't maim anyone.

Can't score points if we have the cans.

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Fear our can grabbers!

No, seriously. I'm amazed they passed safety inspection and didn't maim anyone.

Can't score points if we have the cans.

Can race=worst race
Worse than minibot race?

At least with can races you'd see the occasional battle over the center line.
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Worse than minibot race?
I think 2009 auton was the worst race. All six robots turned tail and ran away from the humans.
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At least with can races you'd see the occasional battle over the center line.
That's a fair argument, but watching minibots go flying off sometimes when hitting the top was highly entertaining. Also the fight to get in position with the poles increased the anticipation and excitement.
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