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Unread 21-03-2016, 17:22
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Old Man Notices A Thing: Lots of Robot Names

Not the weightiest of topics but after years of having a conversation that was something like this:
Person One: "I think we should have [Fill in robot feature] just like we had on CD-[Fill in robot sequence number]."
Person Two: "No no, that was CD-[Fill in different robot sequence number]"
Person One: "No, I don't mean THAT feature, I mean THIS OTHER feature."
Person Three: "You're both wrong. We actually had that mechanism first on CD-[Fill in lower robot sequence number]
Persons One and Two: "What? You're crazy. We're not even taking about that mechanism and even if we were, you have the robot number wrong. The robot you are thinking of was CD-[Different Number] for [Fill in FIRST's Official Name of Game]."
Person Three: "You mean [Fill in Common Name of Game, example, The Soccer Year]?"
Persons One and Two: "YES!"
Person Three: "Oh yeah, you're right. Please continue..."
I have come around to the idea that robots should have names, actual names and names of the form "TeamNameOrIntialsOrIconicPhrase"-"NumberOfYearsTeamExisted" don't count. In fact, I go even farther, practice robots and concept chassis should have actual names too.

TeamName_SequenceNumber names have some positives (specifically you can know which robot was built before/after another) but on the negative side, I believe you give up the ability to have a real conversation about robot without having to get into conversation like the above.

Since I have been on teams that have named their robots and chassis, it is so much better. I still sometimes get corrected about a robot but no more than the number of times I call my son CJ by my daughter's name Sarah* (I'm terrible with names).

Seriously, year's hence do you think there will be any doubt about what Robonaut (#118) robot you are taking about when you say "Arsenal" or which Overclocked (#246) robot will be taking about when we say "Scorpion"? No, no there will not.

So... I have 3 questions and I'm out of here.

First, what do you think about the whole naming robots thing?

Second, can you share names that you especially like/dislike?

Third, am I just getting old** or are more teams this year giving their robots real names this year?

Discuss.

Dr. Joe J.

*i.e. about as often as random chance would predict -- I'm terrible with names, but I blame my mom. She still calls me Ruthie more often than I deserve ;-)

**Old people being famous for noticing something and then deciding that the thing came into existence the second they first became aware of it. Actually, when I frame it like that, young people are guilty of this too. Parhaps my introductory phrase should be "Am I just being a human or.."?
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Unread 21-03-2016, 17:30
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Re: Old Man Notices A Thing: Lots of Robot Names

Personally, I remember robots mostly by their team number and year (ie. 254's 2014 robot). I couldn't tell you its name, and I even already forgot that 118's robot is named "Arsenal" this year.
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Re: Old Man Notices A Thing: Lots of Robot Names

With the exception of 2006 (rookie year), Dawgma has given each robot a unique name. I still end up calling any of our robots that shoot things 'Darryl' (our 2012 robot's name).
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Re: Old Man Notices A Thing: Lots of Robot Names

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First, what do you think about the whole naming robots thing?

Second, can you share names that you especially like/dislike?

Robots should have names. You're right that it does make it easier to refer back to past robots, and lends a little personality to the 'bot.

95 has always given each robot a unique name, generally derived from a famous scientist or engineer. Our team name, in fact, comes from a corruption of a robots name. We had named our 2000 robot after Rear Admiral Grace Hopper, but somewhere along the line it got garbled by announcers into Grasshopper. The team rolled with it since it was as good a team name/mascot as anything, even going so far as to paint a grasshopper on the side of the robot. It's not quite a moth stuck in a relay, but I like to think Adm. Hopper would have approved of the connection.

Other notable names in the teams history; Isaac ('97), Tesla(01), Fynmen('02, and the 'bot I drove), Watson ('11, with Crik as the mini-bot) et. al.

The name is chosen near the end of the build, based on a vote of suggestions offered up by team members. Particular weight is given to names of those who we feel reflect a particular trait we see in the robot, however tenuous the connection. Gauss, for instance, had a lengthy ball shooter that reminded us somewhat of a Gauss cannon of sci/fi fame.

This years robot is named Kovaka, after Dave Kovaka, a former coach and mentor on 95 that sadly passed away this past year.
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Re: Old Man Notices A Thing: Lots of Robot Names

Made me realize something interesting...I'll remember our own team's robots names, but generally refer to other teams robots not by whatever they named it but by *team name - game concept/year*. But if I tried to refer to a robot that I was a mentor for by the game concept - I'd probably have to think longer about it and get mixed up. Usually robot names are referencing a feature of the robot or an inside joke on the team relevant to that year.

The only exception being #printerbot.
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Re: Old Man Notices A Thing: Lots of Robot Names

We've always named our robots. Often, we name them in honor of mentors who left the team. In fact, I've noticed that the robots named after former mentors tend to be better.
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Re: Old Man Notices A Thing: Lots of Robot Names

First, robots should have names
Second, "land shark", especially because the students who named it were unaware of the SNL reference.
Third, yes you are, but this particular topic is not persuasive evidence of that. The alternative to getting old is to die young, so....
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Re: Old Man Notices A Thing: Lots of Robot Names

I fully disagree. I don't think Arsenal or Scorpion are extremely descriptive of the robot (let alone what team they come from). That would be like FIRST naming one of the previous games "Flame Storm" or "The closest thing you will get to a water game". It doesn't match with the game and they could be interchanged even more easily than Krunch 8 being switched with Krunch 10. With [team phrase]-[number of years in existence] you will at least get close to the right number and there's a good chance you will have the right team.

I personally do not know the name of any robot that isn't some derivative of the team's name and that I haven't worked on. I feel in the situation presented Person One should have a picture or video ready to demonstrate the feature and why it is beneficial.

I especially do not like it when a game announcer uses robot names instead of team names or numbers. I don't understand what teams or alliances are doing well/poorly when I hear this: "Donkey is pinned to the wall by Phoenix while Sasquatch shoots into the high goal. Ge0rge is holding open the Sally Port Door for Medusa's Snakes to drive through."*

There are 127 events this year. If you assume there are two robots at each event that are notable to remember than you need to know 254 robot names. To remember the names of these robots along with any robot that is notable from previous years is a huge ordeal and is near impossible if the name has nothing to relate it to their team or the game.

*These names are made up, I apologize if your robot's name appeared in here.
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Re: Old Man Notices A Thing: Lots of Robot Names

1. Yes robots should have names. We have always named our robots.
2. We normally choose a name that is weather related ‘Cloudy” ,“Storm”, ‘Thunder”, and this year “Hail” . I am not sure why we had ‘Star Shine “ one year but it worked.
For other programs it depends on what the robot looks like
3. I teach robotics and it seems that generally the kids that name the robots are the ones that invest a lot of themselves in the robot or the team. The students that are there for the ride are pretty lackadaisical about naming things. I am not sure if that counts as getting old just an observation.
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Re: Old Man Notices A Thing: Lots of Robot Names

My team has always named our robots. Our tradition is that anyone who's there when we get a driving chassis gets to come up with and vote on a name for the robot. For the past two years, we've also decorated our robot to match its name (last year was a dinosaur named Pythagasourus Rex and this year its the evil bunny from Monty Python (the Carbonogg Beast). Its fun, helps teams remember us, and has won us an imagery award every year we've done it.

On an interesting note, if someone cannibalizes an old robot chassis or merges two robots (like our engineering class likes to do) and makes a robot with a different purpose, it gets a new name even though the originally named chassis was still there.

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Our team name, in fact, comes from a corruption of a robots name. We had named our 2000 robot after Rear Admiral Grace Hopper, but somewhere along the line it got garbled by announcers into Grasshopper. The team rolled with it since it was as good a team name/mascot as anything, even going so far as to paint a grasshopper on the side of the robot. It's not quite a moth stuck in a relay, but I like to think Adm. Hopper would have approved of the connection.

This is being listed as one of the cooler stories I learned last weekend at UMD.
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Re: Old Man Notices A Thing: Lots of Robot Names

But are you referring to what robots are named, what their names are called, what robots are called, or what the robots are?

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'Or else what?' said Alice, for the Knight had made a sudden pause.
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'Oh, that's the name of the song, is it?' Alice said, trying to feel interested.
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Re: Old Man Notices A Thing: Lots of Robot Names

Torbot naming rules: Gotta have "Tor" in the name somewhere. Bonus points if it's a bad pun.

We've had a couple of Tormentors, Entorprise (with Galileo, the minibot), Trogtor, Trajector, JaniTOR, and Bantor. I'm missing a few here...
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Torbot naming rules: Gotta have "Tor" in the name somewhere. Bonus points if it's a bad pun.

We've had a couple of Tormentors, Entorprise (with Galileo, the minibot), Trogtor, Trajector, JaniTOR, and Bantor. I'm missing a few here...
Has to be one named Doctor.
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Re: Old Man Notices A Thing: Lots of Robot Names

If you ask me, this sounds like one of those ideas that looks good on paper, but in practice will make things even more confusing. Names are a lot easier to remember when you come up with them, and I can only really recall a few others.
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