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Say goodbye to cheesecaking blockers on second picks.
Also say goodbye to any kind of defense against outerworks shooters.
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Also say goodbye to any kind of defense against outerworks shooters.
Defensive play just moved to the neutral zone....
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Defensive play just moved to the neutral zone....
It has always been there, people just haven't been playing it.
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Re: Your tall opaque robot is now illegal

mfw all tall, monolithic robots are now violating the rules for obstructing other team's "sensing capabilities".

GG tall 'bots; you must be this short to play Stronghold.
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It has always been there, people just haven't been playing it.
To be fair, playing defense in the neutral zone at lower levels can be pretty spooky because there is much less margin for error for a robot that probably will not be well practiced or well coached enough to handle it in a foul-free way that also doe not impede your alliance.
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To be fair, playing defense in the neutral zone at lower levels can be pretty spooky because there is much less margin for error for a robot that probably will not be well practiced or well coached enough to handle it in a foul-free way that also doe not impede your alliance.
You're thinking of the wrong kind of defense. Contest the balls! Don't push the robots! To me, "man defense" is often the wrong call in this game and too many teams are focused on the physical, versus denying access to resources. Denying a ball possession, especially if you give your own alliance possession of the same ball, has a higher return than making a robot miss one shot.
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You're thinking of the wrong kind of defense. Contest the balls! Don't push the robots! To me, "man defense" is often the wrong call in this game and too many teams are focused on the physical, versus denying access to resources. Denying a ball possession, especially if you give your own alliance possession of the same ball, has a higher return than making a robot miss one shot.
We're both thinking of kinds of defense that will not be seen in a considerably effective way before Week 6 because the supply of robots capable of it do not exist at most events and because of that, the demand is also absent.

Defense is going to get really fun Week 6 and later; aka by the time most teams have squished the bugs in their shooters
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We're both thinking of kinds of defense that will not be seen in a considerably effective way before Week 6 because the supply of robots capable of it do not exist at most events and because of that, the demand is also absent.

Defense is going to get really fun Week 6 and later; aka by the time most teams have squished the bugs in their shooters
I don't know what you're talking about - this is something my alliance did in Week 1. Finding a second pick with a functional intake is not exceptionally hard at most events, and it's also somewhat easy to cheesecake. Using this strategy, plus a lot of luck and opportunism, we were able to win one of our semi-final matches against the eventual event winners. There's only 9 balls in the middle - teams should be contesting these at all levels of play! (Assuming "score in the low goal" is present at the lowest levels of play, which I guess might not be)
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