Go to Post We are making this up as we go along - please don't confuse us by telling us the way that it really should be done. - dlavery [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > Competition > Rules/Strategy
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 22-03-2016, 14:29
Citrus Dad's Avatar
Citrus Dad Citrus Dad is offline
Business and Scouting Mentor
AKA: Richard McCann
FRC #1678 (Citrus Circuits)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: May 2012
Rookie Year: 2012
Location: Davis
Posts: 979
Citrus Dad has a reputation beyond reputeCitrus Dad has a reputation beyond reputeCitrus Dad has a reputation beyond reputeCitrus Dad has a reputation beyond reputeCitrus Dad has a reputation beyond reputeCitrus Dad has a reputation beyond reputeCitrus Dad has a reputation beyond reputeCitrus Dad has a reputation beyond reputeCitrus Dad has a reputation beyond reputeCitrus Dad has a reputation beyond reputeCitrus Dad has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Your tall opaque robot is now illegal

Quote:
Originally Posted by rich2202 View Post
The problem with the question is that the GDC is trying to be sensitive to R9, blue box A and C


So, if the purpose of a robot piece is to block cameras (limit the vision), then it is a violation of R9.

If the purpose is to block shots, then that is ok, as it is an obstacle that robot designers are supposed to take into account.

So, put up an opaque piece of fabric that is supposed to interfere with boulder shooting, and you are fine. If it happens to block vision, so be it.

The rule is intended to prevent a defending robot from intentionally shining a flashlight directly into the camera of the other robot.

As they say: Bad cases make bad law.

Just make sure the robot piece has a purpose other than to interfere with sensing capabilities of the robot.



IMHO: As an R9 call, that is solely in the LRI's court. In general, G's are for Ref's, and R's are for RI's.
This sets up an interesting situation--what if a robot can shoot over a fully extended blocker, but it's camera can't see past the blocker because it's mounted so low? I don't think that was the intent of the rule, but that could make it illegal to block a catapult shooter, but allow blocking of low wheeled shooters.
__________________
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 22-03-2016, 15:05
Peyton Yeung's Avatar
Peyton Yeung Peyton Yeung is offline
45 Alumni
AKA: Peyton Yeung
FRC #0461 (Westside Boiler Invasion)
Team Role: Coach
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Rookie Year: 2009
Location: Kokomo, IN
Posts: 805
Peyton Yeung has a reputation beyond reputePeyton Yeung has a reputation beyond reputePeyton Yeung has a reputation beyond reputePeyton Yeung has a reputation beyond reputePeyton Yeung has a reputation beyond reputePeyton Yeung has a reputation beyond reputePeyton Yeung has a reputation beyond reputePeyton Yeung has a reputation beyond reputePeyton Yeung has a reputation beyond reputePeyton Yeung has a reputation beyond reputePeyton Yeung has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Your tall opaque robot is now illegal

Quote:
Originally Posted by Citrus Dad View Post
This sets up an interesting situation--what if a robot can shoot over a fully extended blocker, but it's camera can't see past the blocker because it's mounted so low? I don't think that was the intent of the rule, but that could make it illegal to block a catapult shooter, but allow blocking of low wheeled shooters.
We saw this at the Walker Warren District Event this past weekend. In our last match 3176 played defense on us. They had a long arm they raised up which blocked our flashlight and camera. We were still able to shoot over the arm but it made it so we couldn't see the flashlight nor our camera feed. We never interpreted it as trying to block our vision, just our shot.
__________________
461 Westside Boiler Invasion
2016 Tippy Quarter finalist, Warren Finalist, IN State Semi Finalist,B^3 Double Finalist
2015 Indy Semi finalist, Purdue Quarter Finalist, IN State Quarter Finalist, CORI QF, R2OC Finalist, RAGE Winner
2014 Boilermaker Semi finalist, Crossroads Quarter Finalist, & CAGE Quarter Finalist
45 Technokats
2013 Boilermaker Quarter finalist
2012 CAGE Semi finalist & Queen City Champion
2011 CAGE Quarter finalist & Midwest Semi finalist
2010 CAGE Quarter finalist, Boilermaker Champion, & Washington DC Quarter Finalist
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 22-03-2016, 15:11
MaGiC_PiKaChU's Avatar
MaGiC_PiKaChU MaGiC_PiKaChU is offline
Drive Coach
AKA: Antoine L.
FRC #3360 (Hyperion)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Rookie Year: 2012
Location: Sherbrooke
Posts: 598
MaGiC_PiKaChU has a reputation beyond reputeMaGiC_PiKaChU has a reputation beyond reputeMaGiC_PiKaChU has a reputation beyond reputeMaGiC_PiKaChU has a reputation beyond reputeMaGiC_PiKaChU has a reputation beyond reputeMaGiC_PiKaChU has a reputation beyond reputeMaGiC_PiKaChU has a reputation beyond reputeMaGiC_PiKaChU has a reputation beyond reputeMaGiC_PiKaChU has a reputation beyond reputeMaGiC_PiKaChU has a reputation beyond reputeMaGiC_PiKaChU has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Your tall opaque robot is now illegal

we had an opponent in 2013 that used a green team shirt as a blocker on our alliance partner's full court shooter that used vision... I guess this is the type of strategy that is not allowed with this Q&A
__________________
2012 - 3360 - Junior member
2013 - 3360 - Lead Programmer, Human player
2014 - 3360 - Lead Programmer, Human player
2015 - 3360 - Lead Programmer, Driver
2016 - 3360 - Mentor, Drive coach



Closed Thread


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 14:49.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi