Is the FIRST District point system algorithm correct?

[Jscout11]

Originally Posted by Chris is me

Along similar lines - I've noticed small errors in how my team's district points are calculated. I believe my team is short 5 points for winning a semi-final match in a series we ultimately lost, but maybe I did the calculation wrong. I'm bringing this up here to ask - who should we direct inquiries about district point calculations to in order to verify these numbers? This would probably answer both of our questions.

I believe only the winning alliance in the series receives points

EDIT: Ninja'd

[JimWright949]

Originally Posted by Jscout11

I believe only the winning alliance in the series receives points

EDIT: Ninja'd

So should we see in the points:
3 teams 30
3 teams 20
6 teams 10?

Not:
3 teams 30
3 teams 20
3 teams 10
3 teams 5


http://frc-districtrankings.firstins...2016/PNW/WAMOU

The alliance who won the tie breaker did go on to win the series. Shouldn't they have 10 points?

-Jim

[Jscout11]

Originally Posted by JimWright949

So should we see in the points:
3 teams 30
3 teams 20
6 teams 10?

The alliance who won the tie breaker did go on to win the series. Shouldn't they have 10 points?

-Jim

Yeah sorry, I was responding to Chris's question.

The manual says nothing about a tie that I'm aware of, but I would think it would just be treated like a win for the alliance that wins the tiebraker, meaning that alliance should get 10 points rather than 5.

[thatnameistaken]

Originally Posted by JimWright949

So should we see in the points:
3 teams 30
3 teams 20
6 teams 10?

Not:
3 teams 30
3 teams 20
3 teams 10
3 teams 5


http://frc-districtrankings.firstins...2016/PNW/WAMOU

The alliance who won the tie breaker did go on to win the series. Shouldn't they have 10 points?

-Jim

It looks that way, yes. The alliance in question is listed as 2-0 in the quarterfinals on First's official event page (http://frc-events.firstinspires.org/2016/WAMOU/playoffs), which would indicate that winning the tiebreaker counts as winning the match (which is what makes the most sense anyway).

[Jeffrafa]

Originally Posted by JimWright949

So should we see in the points:
3 teams 30
3 teams 20
6 teams 10?

The alliance who won the tie breaker did go on to win the series. Shouldn't they have 10 points?

I had noticed some point irregularities for playoff points awarded to alliances when tiebreakers came into effect. This is one of those cases, where the winning alliance should have 10 points for moving on (not 5), but the tiebreaker is not evaluated correctly by the district point system.

It turns out FIRST is aware of this, and for now is manually adding points to correct playoff tiebreakers. If you take a look at the team's point summary page (4915 for example), you will see 'Temporary Tiebreaker Adjustment" crediting +5 points, under manual corrections. These points show up in the team's total on the district ranking page, but do not show up in the points at that event.

[JimWright949]

Originally Posted by Jeffrafa

It turns out FIRST is aware of this, and for now is manually adding points to correct playoff tiebreakers. If you take a look at the team's point summary page (4915 for example), you will see 'Temporary Tiebreaker Adjustment" crediting +5 points, under manual corrections. These points show up in the team's total on the district ranking page, but do not show up in the points at that event.

Ahh! thanks.