[FF]: 2016 Season Long Fantasy FIRST

[ttldomination]

Originally Posted by Rangel(kf7fdb)

I'm not a big fan of being able to trade in teams that have already played. At least them being free trades part. I think they should be waiver teams indefinitely so it's not an arms race to trade in teams once they are free. At least that's what I believed to be the point of FF. To make educated predictions of who will do well and form your team, not they were decent in their last event so lets get them. Idk I'm okay either way but next season it is a change I would like to see.

Originally Posted by BrennanB

I think the reasoning beforehand was that waivers are time consuming for Eric to deal with, which is why it's run like this. But this is the most competitive I have seen FF thusfar, and it might be worth changing

If we end up implementing this, then, I feel like waivers ought to be handled privately.

- Sunny G.

[Rangel(kf7fdb)]

Originally Posted by BrennanB

Whoops 839 =/= 836.

My bad.



I think the reasoning beforehand was that waivers are time consuming for Eric to deal with, which is why it's run like this. But this is the most competitive I have seen FF thusfar, and it might be worth changing

If somebody(I guess I volunteer) made an online tool that automatically handled waiver claims, would people be open to this? It seems like it would be simple to submit waiver claims and handle them without a person's input. Things that it would publicly display would be waiver priority, teams currently up for claim, and a log of awarded claims. Even if we don't do this for the current year, it would be helpful for waiver claims in general I would think.

[tindleroot]

Originally Posted by Rangel(kf7fdb)

If somebody(I guess I volunteer) made an online tool that automatically handled waiver claims, would people be open to this? It seems like it would be simple to submit waiver claims and handle them without a person's input. Things that it would publicly display would be waiver priority, teams currently up for claim, and a log of awarded claims. Even if we don't do this for the current year, it would be helpful for waiver claims in general I would think.

I think that this is a good idea.

One other thing I want to propose is to offer waiver priority to teams at a regional who have one (or more) pick drop out of the regional. In these cases, I think it makes sense that their new pick should be allowed regardless of waiver priority and time before the event, but once an event starts, then their team is replaced with a random.

[BrennanB]

Originally Posted by tindleroot

One other thing I want to propose is to offer waiver priority to teams at a regional who have one (or more) pick drop out of the regional. In these cases, I think it makes sense that their new pick should be allowed regardless of waiver priority and time before the event, but once an event starts, then their team is replaced with a random.

This already exists.

[tindleroot]

Originally Posted by BrennanB

This already exists.

Oh. Didn't know that.

[tindleroot]

Since FIRST Pick is first in the waiver priority, we are going to use that spot on 4009 at Idaho, trading them out with 3513.

[tindleroot]

I think I found a problem with automated scoring right now - if you haven't noticed yet, it appears that the high score points are being awarded to the #1 seed alliance at every event, regardless of who got the actual high scores. This makes the scores at many events incorrect. I've also come across a few cases of missed qualification win scores, particularly at the Arkansas Rock City Regional.

[Navid Shafa]

Originally Posted by tindleroot

Since FIRST Pick is first in the waiver priority, we are going to use that spot on 4009 at Idaho, trading them out with 3513.

If that's the case, we move up to first on the waiver priority list and get 2486. I can process these when Eric approves.

[ttldomination]

Originally Posted by tindleroot

I think I found a problem with automated scoring right now - if you haven't noticed yet, it appears that the high score points are being awarded to the #1 seed alliance at every event, regardless of who got the actual high scores. This makes the scores at many events incorrect. I've also come across a few cases of missed qualification win scores, particularly at the Arkansas Rock City Regional.

So, I've looked into this, and here's what I found:

Looking specifically at Rock City, the 1st seed did actually get the highest score in Q1, Match 1 with a score of 172.

However, I looked into a couple of events and noticed some discrepancies. I couldn't even tell you what the actual error was, but I've implemented a fix and updated all events up to date.

To help track the highest score a little better, I've added a description column in the RawAwardsData sheet that'll indicate the match and the highest score for which the "award" was granted.

Let me know if this makes sense, and please let us know if you guys find any more issues,
- Sunny G.

[BrennanB]

Originally Posted by Navid Shafa

If that's the case, we move up to first on the waiver priority list and get 2486. I can process these when Eric approves.

I can't even find the rule right now, but I swear that's a thing.

[ghostmachine360]

MI: 910 (OUT), 858 (IN)

[Navid Shafa]

Swapping no-shows for randoms, as Brennan pointed them out:

FF	OUT	IN	Event
OJ	5602	6204	Australia
BRO	3683	120	Buckeye
Swamp	744	2465	Utah
BRO	4158	2484	Utah
FP	4083	3241	Utah
Falcon	972	3289	Utah
Ulcan	5869	4348	Utah
BRO	2403	1891	Utah
TBC	2594	4310	Utah

In Utah's case, I worked down the random list by replacing teams in drafted order. (See reason for the changes in bold below)

[Navid Shafa]

Originally Posted by BrennanB

I can't even find the rule right now, but I swear that's a thing.

Just the natural waiver order, which I believe is as follows:

Originally Posted by EricH

Waiver Priority:
FIRST Pick
Rotten Fruit Alliance
OrangeJuice
Falcon
Swamp Life
The Breakfast Company
The ULCAN
Broconnor

RFA brought to attention the claims on 4009 (Idaho) and 2486 (Las Vegas). Since FIRST Pick was at the top of the list and RFA second, FIRST Pick had priority and should be rewarded 4009 (swapping out 3513, per their request). They would then move to the bottom of the list, giving RFA 2486 (choosing to drop 3200). I'll wait for Eric to chime in here before processing.

I believe the new waiver priority should be:

Waiver Priority:
OrangeJuice
Falcon
Swamp Life
The Breakfast Company
The ULCAN
Broconnor
FIRST Pick
Rotten Fruit Alliance

The waiver claim for 48 at Queen City is still on the table, posted today by The ULCAN.

[tindleroot]

Originally Posted by Navid Shafa

Swapping no-shows for randoms, as Brennan pointed them out:

FF	OUT	IN	Event
OJ	5602	6204	Australia
BRO	3683	120	Buckeye
Swamp	744	6210	Utah
BRO	4158	2465	Utah
FP	4083	2484	Utah
Falcon	972	3241	Utah
Ulcan	5869	3289	Utah
BRO	2403	4348	Utah
TBC	2594	1891	Utah

In Utah's case, I worked down the random list by replacing teams in drafted order.

Was 6210 also a no-show for Utah? If that's the case randoms need to be moved up.

[Navid Shafa]

Originally Posted by tindleroot

Was 6210 also a no-show for Utah? If that's the case randoms need to be moved up.

Good catch, fixed above and in the live-scoring sheet.