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Unread 28-03-2016, 07:09
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Re: 2046 robot stolen

It is not an R18 exception you want (withholding), it is a R16 exception (bag and tag rules). With no robot in a bag with a correct seal number, you will fail R15/R16.

What i would do is email First HQ with the following:

1) Explain the situation
2) Include a copy of the police report, or if that is not yet available, the report number (proof of event)
3) Explain what you would like to do:
a) use the practice robot for your Robot
b) Perform the following modifications in order to make it functionally identical to the robot that was bagged
c) Bag the robot by <date>
d) Use the following withheld parts for the R18 rule.
4) Request an exception to R15/R16 for the above due to the unusual circumstance.

Assuming that First e-mail's you an exception, I would then print out your original e-mail, First's email giving you the exception, and attach that to your lock/unlock form that has the current tag number.
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Unread 28-03-2016, 07:20
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Re: 2046 robot stolen

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It is not an R18 exception you want (withholding), it is a R16 exception (bag and tag rules). With no robot in a bag with a correct seal number, you will fail R15/R16.

What i would do is email First HQ with the following:

1) Explain the situation
2) Include a copy of the police report, or if that is not yet available, the report number (proof of event)
3) Explain what you would like to do:
a) use the practice robot for your Robot
b) Perform the following modifications in order to make it functionally identical to the robot that was bagged
c) Bag the robot by <date>
d) Use the following withheld parts for the R18 rule.
4) Request an exception to R15/R16 for the above due to the unusual circumstance.

Assuming that First e-mail's you an exception, I would then print out your original e-mail, First's email giving you the exception, and attach that to your lock/unlock form that has the current tag number.
I'm assuming they already called First. My team has called First (in Michigan) to see if we could open our bag before because of something before that we left in, or something odd like that. I'm pretty sure they would make an exception to that rule since their robot was stolen, it's not like they will be opening their bag to make their robot better. I don't think First will care, but of course they still need to check but I wouldn't be surprised if they did already.

Too bad your team isn't closer, I talked to a lot of my team and I'm pretty sure half of us, if not all, would be doing whatever we could to help you. I know all the team's in the area where my team competes would send help just because it's how the First Community is. Good luck with your robot! I can't imagine hown it would feel for somebody to steal your robot...
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Unread 28-03-2016, 08:07
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Re: 2046 robot stolen

So sorry to read about this. I hope everything turns out for the better. I would encourage all teams to access twitter and retweet Bear Metals posting. The more this gets out, news agencies will see the posts.
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Re: 2046 robot stolen

3574 will be with you in Auburn. Would be happy to help with anything you need. Our pit is your pit.
If you need any driver station setups or cots parts we could bring those too.
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Re: 2046 robot stolen

5683 will be with you as well in your auburn event. look for the ravens. our pit is your pit, we will help as much as possible. don't expect too much, we're a second year team.
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Re: 2046 robot stolen

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Assuming that First e-mail's you an exception, I would then print out your original e-mail, First's email giving you the exception, and attach that to your lock/unlock form that has the current tag number.
Sorry to hear about the theft of your great looking, and performing, robot and support materials. It is great to see your team's positive attitude in this difficult situation.

It would probably be a good idea to confirm that FIRST will also send a copy of any exceptions to the organizers of the Auburn Event and any subsequent events that your team may be going to so they will be expecting you and won't feel the need to confirm with HQ when they see your exception printed out.

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Unread 28-03-2016, 13:31
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Re: 2046 robot stolen

Update: We have been contacted by several news local news casts to do interviews and right articles on us. Our plan is to use the publicity to inform the public of FIRST rather than have people feel sorry for us. Komo is coming to our shop today to do an interview of several of our mentors.
Teams from all over are offering us parts and tools and thank you all so much! We ordered some stock and plan to have our drive train hubs machined and all the wiring checked and nylon tubed to be up to par for Auburn. Even though we are upset by everything, we have big plans to get this resolved and the practice bot will be ready by saturday. Big thanks to teams 5920 and 4061 who are bringing a meal for us tomorrow night. New batteries have been bought as well and 2907 is open to our shop and tools as needed.
Watching everyone reach out to us and offer their help is absolutely inspiring and demonstrates how the FIRST community handles things like this.
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Great attitude !

A similar stolen robot trailer incident happened in 2013. 4603 from Mexico had their robot & trailer stolen before the regional. The team did not have spare parts or a practice robot.

Many of the Alamo teams pooled together to help the team build a new robot at the Regional and they reached the 2013 Alamo semi-finals !
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Great attitude !

A similar stolen robot trailer incident happened in 2013. 4603 from Mexico had their robot & trailer stolen before the regional. The team did not have spare parts or a practice robot.

Many of the Alamo teams pooled together to help the team build a new robot at the Regional and they reached the 2013 Alamo semi-finals !
In terms of other past examples, unfortunately this also happened to 5338 on their way back from the Smoky Mountains Regional last year.
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=136436

Fortunately, the robot was recovered afterwards (though not in time to use it at CMP).
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=136613

Hopefully the media attention to 2046 can help a similar resolution come about.
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Unread 28-03-2016, 13:55
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Update: We have been contacted by several news local news casts to do interviews and right articles on us. Our plan is to use the publicity to inform the public of FIRST rather than have people feel sorry for us. Komo is coming to our shop today to do an interview of several of our mentors.
Teams from all over are offering us parts and tools and thank you all so much! We ordered some stock and plan to have our drive train hubs machined and all the wiring checked and nylon tubed to be up to par for Auburn. Even though we are upset by everything, we have big plans to get this resolved and the practice bot will be ready by saturday. Big thanks to teams 5920 and 4061 who are bringing a meal for us tomorrow night. New batteries have been bought as well and 2907 is open to our shop and tools as needed.
Watching everyone reach out to us and offer their help is absolutely inspiring and demonstrates how the FIRST community handles things like this.
Love it!
Get the word out about FIRST, and let everyone know about your stolen stuff. It's awesome how the FIRST (and CD) community is stepping up, and your team has such a great attitude about this.

I'd love to hear that your stuff has been found and the offender(s) get arrested!

Good luck!!
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Unread 28-03-2016, 14:19
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Re: 2046 robot stolen

This is absolutely terrible, we had the honor of being a part of an alliance with 2046 in Curie Division last year and they are a group of great gracious professionals. Team 5586 made sure to watch the live stream of our former alliance partners at their district event and they performed as superb as expected, so we wish them best of luck and hope that they can continue their trend of success with their backup bot!
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Re: 2046 robot stolen

Quite saddened to hear about 2046's loss, we were right next to them in the pits, and they had a really good robot. Hopefully you guys will find the robot + your stuff, at least you had a backup robot, so thats something. I wish you guys the best of luck!
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Re: 2046 robot stolen

I'm sure 2046 will write more but they just posted on Facebook that their robot, less the RoboRIO was dumped off in front of their high school!!!! https://www.facebook.com/FRC2046/pos...426665757745:0
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I'm sure 2046 will write more but they just posted on Facebook that their robot, less the RoboRIO was dumped off in front of their high school!!!! https://www.facebook.com/FRC2046/pos...426665757745:0
I hope whoever still has the RoboRIO realizes it is going to be pretty hard to use.
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I hope whoever still has the RoboRIO realizes it is going to be pretty hard to use.
And pretty much anyone who can use it can find out if it's Bear Metal's pretty easily...
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