Interesting observation on stats for this year (to the end of March)

[GreyingJay]

Probably because nobody has a very fast Class C breach. I saw a few robots try in quals at North Bay, but they're typically slow and finicky, and the floppiness of the drawbridge makes it harder. The most reliable way to go through the drawbridge and sally port is to have it opened for you from behind.

I think in elims people realize that the time spent for two or three robots to coordinate a Class C defense crossing, is better spent having those robots line up an extra few goals instead. There are generally enough low bar robots that the breach can always be obtained even while ignoring the Class C defenses.

[mjc49]

Originally Posted by GreyingJay

Probably because nobody has a very fast Class C breach. I saw a few robots try in quals at North Bay, but they're typically slow and finicky, and the floppiness of the drawbridge makes it harder. The most reliable way to go through the drawbridge and sally port is to have it opened for you from behind.

I think in elims people realize that the time spent for two or three robots to coordinate a Class C defense crossing, is better spent having those robots line up an extra few goals instead. There are generally enough low bar robots that the breach can always be obtained even while ignoring the Class C defenses.

I agree with this assessment. The class C defenses typically take a lot of time relative to the amount of point that can be attained. If a bot can't do it solo, it is not efficient to have two bots tied up to get 5 points.

[Keefe2471]

I believe the importance of class C in Elims was discussed on Gamesense this last week. What I came away with was the opinion that as alliances increase in skill and start capturing and breaching every match, regardless of defense, those 10 points will be more and more critical for securing the win. So I would expect those stats to start shifting in the opposite direction as we go forward. I wouldn't expect that championship level alliances leave those points on the field.

I do agree that doing it solo is the best way to do it, I think that teams like 118 and 1197 that can do those defenses quickly (or in auto!) will be more valuable picks than comparable teams shooting wise.

[Jean Tenca]

I think one contributing factor is that in quals you more often have to deal with a random robot getting stuck or dying on a defense, which forces the alliance to attempt the class C defense. By eliminations, failure prone robots have been filtered out and teams don't bother with class C due to time/difficulty/specialization.